re: Snowden and Putin really throwing it down on us now.

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Um. I don't buy your theory. Would anyone argue that Russia, immediately post USSR was in "less pain" than before?

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They were on much more equal footing during the end of the Soviet reign and the beginning of Russian "freedom" in relation to living conditions compared to where we are now and the life of a revolutionary.

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How bout Nazi Germany? Were they in less pain after their government led them to war than before?

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I am not sure how this ties in. There was no revolution in Germany that lead them to war.

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Oh. And by the way, I don't mean to sound harsh, but what I just said is REALLY what you are describing. If our nation folds painfully(and I think it will), then it will affect someone in your progeny. Maybe not your kids. Maybe your grandkids. But, alas, you wont be here to witness it, so it doesn't scare you. Again, I understand that. I just want to clarify that is the reality.

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Of course what we have now will end as nothing lasts but to worry about when it will happen is a waste of time and there is nothing we can do about it. I care about the things that I can control and that is the life of my family. I hope the lives of my ancestors are as wonderful as the lives we lead but that is not something I have direct control over and to worry about it is a foolish waste of time in my opinion.