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re: Snowden and Putin really throwing it down on us now.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:10 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:10 am to ShortyRob
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I can't speak for him, but I'm not young and I do have children. When I was 25, I could probably have been rightfully said to be "America, frick yeah!!".
Now? Not so much. I'm very impressed by what we COULD be but not terriby impressed by what we are and are becoming.
Do you really want our country to crumble? Do you want to risk the possibility of not being able to feed your children and standing in bread lines as your wife starves at home? I don't think many here realize how painful an externally initiated change would be. The best case scenario is that we correct this ourselves, without violence. Idealism doesn't put food on the table or let you go bass fishing in your boat on the weekends. Sometimes things that sound good in theory are actually VERY painful to endure. I admire the founding fathers more thn any other group that has ever existed but I also realize what they had to endure. People now say they are willing to pay that price while sitting in a heated and air conditioned home and watching television but I don't think they really understand what that price will be.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:15 am to DanTiger
quote:Of course not in the abstract. It would suck for many individuals.
Do you really want our country to crumble?
quote:Well, I suspect even an internally initiated change would suck arse because it damned sure isn't going to happen because a bunch of dudes in DC cause it. If we ever get off this train to hell, it will be at the point of a gun or due to disintegration from within. BOTH would suck of course.
Do you want to risk the possibility of not being able to feed your children and standing in bread lines as your wife starves at home? I don't think many here realize how painful an externally initiated change would be
quote:What you are describing is pretty much why all overreaching governments in history have been able to do so for as long as they did. You do realize that, correct? I'm not saying I don't understand the self-preservation mindset. I'm merely pointing out that overreaching governments absolutely RELY upon that reality in their citizens. They couldn't do what they do otherwise.
Idealism doesn't put food on the table or let you go bass fishing in your boat on the weekends. Sometimes things that sound good in theory are actually VERY painful to endure.
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