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5th Year Option Numbers for Jordan and Ingram
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:27 pm
I posted this in the Ingram thread but figured it is likely buried in there. The deadline to decide whether to use the option is May 3.
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Using it on Jordan is a no brainer because that may be half of what he actually gets per year so it will save us money in the long term.
I can't see them using it on Ingram. Better backs got less this year. Even if he does get around 1,000 yards I can't see him getting that much off of 1 (full)year of good production.
This also fits what I said about the roster bonuses for Byrd and Lofton next year being turned into signing bonuses(or Lofton getting cut). Combined, that would save us $7.8m(or $8.8m if Lofton is cut instead), more than enough to use the option on Jordan.
Those bonuses seemed to have been put in with Jordan's option in mind.
But maybe this is just another example of Loomis correct a mistake.
Edit:
In the other thread I also switched the savings on Byrd($4.8m) and Lofton's($3m) bonuses in my mind and mistakenly said it would be cheaper to do the roster into signing bonus with Lofton when in fact we save a million more($4m) cutting him.
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Jordan’s extension is expected to cost $6.969 million for 2015 and Ingram’s $5.211 million, according to ESPN NFL Insider John Clayton, who wrote about the looming fifth-year extensions around the league.
Using it on Jordan is a no brainer because that may be half of what he actually gets per year so it will save us money in the long term.
I can't see them using it on Ingram. Better backs got less this year. Even if he does get around 1,000 yards I can't see him getting that much off of 1 (full)year of good production.
This also fits what I said about the roster bonuses for Byrd and Lofton next year being turned into signing bonuses(or Lofton getting cut). Combined, that would save us $7.8m(or $8.8m if Lofton is cut instead), more than enough to use the option on Jordan.
Those bonuses seemed to have been put in with Jordan's option in mind.
But maybe this is just another example of Loomis correct a mistake.
Edit:
In the other thread I also switched the savings on Byrd($4.8m) and Lofton's($3m) bonuses in my mind and mistakenly said it would be cheaper to do the roster into signing bonus with Lofton when in fact we save a million more($4m) cutting him.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:33 pm to bonethug0108
No way we use it on Ingram. Moreno's new contract is $3.3 mill a year I think, and his production last year was much better than Ingram.
Jordan well....duh
Jordan well....duh
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:40 pm to tigerbaittrick
issue is what if he blows up this year. 1k yards, 4.5ypc, 500 yards receiving.
Just a random production number (99.999999% sure it aint gonna happen), but how would you pay him? Off one year's performance? (5th year option) or low offer?
Just a random production number (99.999999% sure it aint gonna happen), but how would you pay him? Off one year's performance? (5th year option) or low offer?
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:42 pm to htran90
quote:When's the last time this happened to any of our backs?
issue is what if he blows up this year. 1k yards, 4.5ypc, 500 yards receiving.
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:48 pm to htran90
I do not see him getting 500 yds receiving no way no how, but I get this is a what if.
Even in that scenario, based on what happened this year and what has been happening with HBs, and given this would be the first full season of legit production he's had, I don't see any team giving him $5.2m.
So I think we're safe passing on that option. The odds are just too stacked against it to be worth taking that risk.
Edit:
I got that HB contract wrong. It was bad info from someone at ESPN. I'm trying to find what the highest per year avg. a HB got this year was.
Even in that scenario, based on what happened this year and what has been happening with HBs, and given this would be the first full season of legit production he's had, I don't see any team giving him $5.2m.
So I think we're safe passing on that option. The odds are just too stacked against it to be worth taking that risk.
Edit:
I got that HB contract wrong. It was bad info from someone at ESPN. I'm trying to find what the highest per year avg. a HB got this year was.
This post was edited on 4/14/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 4/14/14 at 8:52 pm to Hoodoo Man
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When's the last time this happened to any of our backs?
deuce in '03
1641 yards rushing (4.7ypc) 8 TDs
516 yards receiving
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:02 pm to htran90
And he was basically our main guy.
I just don't see Payton allowing that, EVEN IF Ingram somehow turned out to have the capacity.
I just don't see Payton allowing that, EVEN IF Ingram somehow turned out to have the capacity.
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