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Ancient Aliens - Puma Punku
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:53 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:53 am
Sometimes AA feels like a mockumentary, but other times it really makes you think. The Puma Punku episode from Season 4 is one such episode. Puma Punku is a site in Bolivia where they seem to make a pretty good case for the architecture being built using machine tools rather than hand tools. Just look at all the smooth, uniform surfaces and straight lines. It stands out from most other ruins I've seen.
I know many ancient building mysteries can be explained with multiple generations of human labor, but like I said, I don't think I've ever seen any other ruins with so many straight lines, perfectly drilled holes, and smooth surfaces. The episode also talked about a nearby "human built" site of Tiwanaku, that has a "United Nations" wall of face carvings representing races that weren't in South America and a few that look like the classic Grey aliens. I'm not sure I buy the "United Nations" line, I don't think the statues show enough detail for that, but the one that looks like an alien, does look kind of like an alien and is made from a different colored stone.
I know many ancient building mysteries can be explained with multiple generations of human labor, but like I said, I don't think I've ever seen any other ruins with so many straight lines, perfectly drilled holes, and smooth surfaces. The episode also talked about a nearby "human built" site of Tiwanaku, that has a "United Nations" wall of face carvings representing races that weren't in South America and a few that look like the classic Grey aliens. I'm not sure I buy the "United Nations" line, I don't think the statues show enough detail for that, but the one that looks like an alien, does look kind of like an alien and is made from a different colored stone.
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:54 am to TigerinATL
subliminal messaging for the history channel
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
The conspiracy within the conspiracy 
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:58 am to TigerinATL
I have watched every episode at least twice and the one that really gets me is the Egyptian pyramids.
The perfect 90* angles and perfect symmetry in those buildings is pretty much impossible for us to do today with our machines, and absolutely impossible with copper tools.
The perfect 90* angles and perfect symmetry in those buildings is pretty much impossible for us to do today with our machines, and absolutely impossible with copper tools.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:59 am to TigerinATL
teacH the controversy
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:00 am to SouthOfSouth
Haven't seen what you're talking about, but at risk of making it seem easy, I don't see how those things about the pyramid aren't attainable with a little thought and planning.
The symmetry/angles is less mysterious to me than just the fact they were able to divert so many resources towards construction for it to be that big.
The symmetry/angles is less mysterious to me than just the fact they were able to divert so many resources towards construction for it to be that big.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:01 am to TigerinATL
There are several structures in South America that make you scratch your head. And the Nazca lines.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:01 am to SouthOfSouth
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The perfect 90* angles and perfect symmetry in those buildings is pretty much impossible for us to do today with our machines, and absolutely impossible with copper tools.
I don't know about "impossible" - but the thing that gets me is the tolerances in the Giza pyramids - those joints are so tight, you cannot get a playing card between the stones - even thousands of years later.
So, while I don't say "impossible" (heck, they're right in front of our eyes) - if done with the technology we believe was available at the time, the amount of effort and attention to detail is greater than the Manhattan Project and Apollo Program of the 20th Century.
(And I don't buy that slaves were that dedicated - those things were built by expert craftsmen.)
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:02 am to TigerinATL
Looks like a casting in cement. That's a head scratcher.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:02 am to Ace Midnight
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I don't know about "impossible" - but the thing that gets me is the tolerances in the Giza pyramids - those joints are so tight, you cannot get a playing card between the stones - even thousands of years later.
Which takes cutting the stones so perfectly....
With copper tools....
ha.
ha.
ha.
edit: and yes, I am a believer.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 9:04 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:04 am to Swoopin
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The symmetry/angles is less mysterious to me than just the fact they were able to divert so many resources towards construction for it to be that big.
The labor seems the easiest to explain. When you fought wars the victors took slaves. For successful civilizations like the Egyptians, they had an ample supply of human labor, and the standard of living was relatively low, so you could afford to apply your human resources to monument building.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:05 am to Jimbeaux
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Looks like a casting in cement. That's a head scratcher.
It sure does look like cement. And to me that would be the bigger question here. Cement was not known in the new world until the Europeans brought the knowledge of it here.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:06 am to TigerinATL
The little holes on the bottom and right side look like they would have been impossible without a drill of some kind.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:06 am to TigerinATL
one thing i don't get is that if aliens made these structures, why are they so shitty compared to modern tech?
aliens would have more advanced tech than we do now, so they could do all sorts of cool shite...but they still go for stone?
aliens would have more advanced tech than we do now, so they could do all sorts of cool shite...but they still go for stone?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:06 am to Swoopin
Look into when geologists date the sphynx vs historians. Like 50k years before humans existed.
Or the deorite jars with hollow handles..which we CANNOT replicate today. And there are zero reasons to even have hollow handles.
The weird part is that Cdating points to earlier civiluzations, but its ignored.
Or the deorite jars with hollow handles..which we CANNOT replicate today. And there are zero reasons to even have hollow handles.
The weird part is that Cdating points to earlier civiluzations, but its ignored.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:07 am to Darth_Vader
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It sure does look like cement.
They kept saying it was carved/cut granite.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:09 am to TigerinATL
Couldn't they use molds to make straight lines and curves?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:10 am to TigerinATL
Yeah but I think we don't give enough credit to how poor living conditions were even in a relatively prosperous nation like Egypt... and there simply isn't anything before or after built by man until the 20th century that even rivals it in scope/size... and to think they did multiples of each.
I just don't see how they had the resources to sustain even a forcibly taken slave population that long.
What someone pointed out about the tolerance does seem very interesting... I didn't know about that
I just don't see how they had the resources to sustain even a forcibly taken slave population that long.
What someone pointed out about the tolerance does seem very interesting... I didn't know about that
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 9:10 am
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:10 am to TigerinATL
I believe
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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aliens would have more advanced tech than we do now, so they could do all sorts of cool shite...but they still go for stone?
Most of the AA episodes I've seen seem to imply the number of aliens was small meaning they had to make do with local resources. Maybe the magic memory metal the Roswell flying saucer was made from isn't something they can just bang out on a 3D printer.
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