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re: History Debate: Ulysses S. Grant vs. Robert E. Lee

Posted on 3/29/14 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124542 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 3:47 pm to
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a new line of thinking in the long-held belief that Robert E. Lee was the better general
Wow! A new line of thinking, eh?
Kind of like a new line of thinking rendering the Carter Presidency a roaring success?

Second Manassas
Troop #'s: CSA - 49,000 Union - 76,000
Casualties: CSA - 9,197 Union - 16,054

South Mountain
Troop #'s: CSA - 18,000 Union - 28,000
Casualties: CSA - 2,685 Union - 1,813

Antietam
Troop #'s: CSA - 52,000 Union - 75,000
Casualties: CSA - 13,724 Union - 12,410

Fredericksburg
Troop #'s: CSA - 72,000 Union - 114,000
Casualties: CSA - 5,309 Union - 12,653

Chancellorsville
Troop #'s: CSA - 57,000 Union - 105,000
Casualties: CSA - 12,764 Union - 16,792

Gettysburg
Troop #'s: CSA - 75,000 Union - 83,000
Casualties: CSA - 23,231-28,063 Union - 23,049

Wilderness
Troop #'s: CSA - 61,000 Union - 102,000
Casualties: CSA - 11,400 Union - 18,400

Spotsylvania
Troop #'s: CSA - 52,000 Union - 100,000
Casualties: CSA - 12,000 Union - 18,000

Cold Harbor
Troop #'s: CSA - 62,000 Union - 108,000
Casualties: CSA - 2,500 Union - 12,000

Deep Bottom
Troop #'s: CSA - 20,000 Union - 28,000
Casualties: CSA - 1,700 Union - 2,901

Petersburg
Troop #'s: CSA - 52,000 Union - 125,000
Casualties: CSA - 28,000 Union - 42,000

Appomattox (campaign)
Troop #'s: CSA ~ 40,000 Union - 113,000
Casualties: CSA - no record available Union - 10,780

Grant took up the gauntlet with the Wilderness Campaign. His forces consistently outnumbered Lee's 2-to-1. When the quality, advancement and sophistication of weaponry and supplies is considered, the fact Lee could keep the Union out of Richmond for four years is phenomenal. Grant was serviceable. Lee was brilliant.


Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10698 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:18 pm to
Style points don't count in War. It's win and win at all costs. Lee didn't fight to win and great Generals fight to win.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Grant took up the gauntlet with the Wilderness Campaign. His forces consistently outnumbered Lee's 2-to-1.


Which means absolutely dick when you are assaulting an entrenched enemy. In the Civil War, with only a handful of exceptions, the attacking force almost always suffered heavier casualties.





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