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re: Fwiw, Kiper's latest mock draft released today

Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:12 pm to
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You'd be hard pressed to get one of those in the late second no matter how deep the draft is



Sorry but have to disagree. You can find #1 WR talent in the 2nd round this year. shite, we got Kenny Stills in the 5th last year. WR is almost turning into RB, where as the system can dictate the WR's success.

Is Brandin Cooks a #1 WR? no, because of his size.

Same can probably be said for Odell Beckham Jr.

So which #1WR type are we going to target at 27? jordan Matthews? Cause we can get Moncreif likely in the 2nd. Allen Robinson? Montavis Bryant? Davante Adams? They have more WR1 measureables than Cooks or Beckham, who are being ranked ahead of them.

Even with that being said, we re-up Jimmy Graham, and we can get away with having a quasi WR1/WR2 type guy as our #1 WR. Stills is a very good start for the future, cause he can play slot or on the outside.
Posted by higgsBoson
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:20 pm to
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Is Brandin Cooks a #1 WR? no, because of his size. Same can probably be said for Odell Beckham Jr.


These are both good points but aren't addressed in your original post calling people out.
I said that if there's no WR #1 we shouldn't draft one.
I agree that there may not be a guy that fits that role at 27. I also agree about Graham. But what you saw last year when teams started treating Graham like a WR is that he wasn't one. He needs a legit WR #1 opposite him to pull the better CBs off him.
I agree though that there probably won't be one we need to take with the first.
I still wouldn't be upset filling Sproles and Moore's role with a guy like OBJ or Cooks, because we also need a return man and a slot WR.
But you're right about value there. That's why they aren't higher in the first.

I don't know what we do with this pick. I don't see any guys at CB either who I think can be even a number 2 guy next year.
Right now I'm hoping Mosley falls and we can get some cap room cutting Hawethorne.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13248 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:09 pm to
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Lester Earl

to say someone is not a #1 receiver because of size is ridiculous

Antonio Brown 5'10 186
TY Hilton 5'9 178
Kendall Wright 5'10 191
Golden Tate 5'10 202
Harry Douglas 6' 183
Steve Smith 5'9 185
Denarius Moore 6' 190
DJax 5'10 175

some guys who are a little bit bigger
Garcon 6' 210
Torrey Smith 6' 205
Cruz 6' 204
Cecil Shorts 6' 202

Beckham 5'11 198
Cooks 5'10 189

all of those guys are #1 receivers or high #2 and borderline 1s
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