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re: My feeling on capitalism
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:01 am to stuntman
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:01 am to stuntman
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"poor" people being fat. You're a smart guy, ST, it wasn't that hard to comprehend.
Being fat is not a determination of health.
And cultures of human beings have kept themselves well fed, some with great abundance before capitalism.
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Huh? Poverty world wide is DECREASING and has been doing so at an amazing rate.
This is a flawed stat.
For example, right now you can buy full estates in rural Spain for nothing. These are plots of land that families farmed for centuries. These little communities had to come into the city to find low income work during the financial collapse in 08. Now they're no longer considered impoverished because they make more than $2 a day, but now they pay for their food and housing, which before was provided by their land.
This is a mini shot example of how people have been taken from their rural land which provided the basic necessities of life to a city job that pays low but enough to no longer be considered impoverished.
This has happened over and over again the last century. That is why poverty is going down.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:02 am to Sleeping Tiger
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For example, right now you can buy full estates in rural Spain for nothing.
link please, I could use a hacienda.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:10 am to Sleeping Tiger
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Being fat is not a determination of health.
Holy lord, man. I'm saying our poor are not starving, in fact, quit the opposite....which never happened before in human history.
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cultures of human beings have kept themselves well fed, some with great abundance before capitalism.
Who were some of these cultures w/ poor people that were well fed?
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This is a mini shot example of how people have been taken from their rural land which provided the basic necessities of life to a city job that pays low but enough to no longer be considered impoverished.
Never heard that explanation before. Do you have a source or link I can check out?
ETA: just saw the link above. Do you have any other studies besides Spain?
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 12:14 am
Posted on 3/28/14 at 12:17 am to Sleeping Tiger
Ok, if these were self sustaining plots of land, then why did they need to flee their property?
And then there's this: "Mr Canales added that families who fled to larger towns in order to earn money are often loath to return to the country because it is viewed as taking a step backwards."
Why would they consider it a "move backwards" if they had a better standard of living before they were "forced" into the city?
And then there's this: "Mr Canales added that families who fled to larger towns in order to earn money are often loath to return to the country because it is viewed as taking a step backwards."
Why would they consider it a "move backwards" if they had a better standard of living before they were "forced" into the city?
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