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re: Saints Talk Draft Project: The Dirty Dozen for #27

Posted on 3/29/14 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/29/14 at 6:44 pm to
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What about Welker?
Welker was the only other receiver to get more than 4 catches(he had 8). Same as with us, they seemed to let one guy run wild(Colston) but made sure to shut everyone else down.

And D. Thomas was thrown at 18 times but caught only 13 so it's not a great %. They shut Decker and Graham down and Julius Thomas barely made a dent yardage wise(with only 4 catches to boot).

Most of the guys beating them were the faster guys(D. Thomas is fast too, not just big).

Look at what they did to Vernon Davis who is a big body(also fast). Boldin and Crabtree were the only receivers even having a little success against them in the championship game.

It's amazing what Colston actually did against them and I think it was due to them focusing on taking Graham and Stills out of the game.

So size alone is not going to beat Seattle. Manning and the amazing year they were having managed 20 catches on 31 targets(65%) to his big targets, while having 14 catches on 18 targets(78%) to his smaller guys.

13 of those 20 went to D. Thomas. They chose to let him run free while trying to shut down the other guys. And if you count him in with the speed guys(which he is) the numbers skew even greater: 27 catches on 36 targets for 75%. That leaves the other side with 7 catches on 13 targets for 54%.

Size is not going to beat them. They'll let one big guy beat them and shut down the rest. You need speed to keep them from holding. Separation is absolute key.

All that said, size or speed or some combination doesn't matter with the draft. You take the BPA no matter who it is.
This post was edited on 3/29/14 at 6:45 pm
Posted by PurpleDrank18
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2011
4508 posts
Posted on 3/29/14 at 8:08 pm to
Like I said, I understand your point, but I still think we need diversity in size for the future; We can't just rely on Jimmy forever. There are WRs in this draft who are big AND fast. Moncreif, Matthews, and Bryant all ran sub-4.5s and they're 6'2", 6'3", and 6'4" respectively. That's more impressive to me, in regards to Moncreif I'll take the SLIGHT dip in speed for 4 inches, 30 lbs, and a round later.

Yes the draft is about BPA but it's also about value. The drop from Cooks to the 3 wrs I listed isnt that much. Unless the player sitting there is far and away the best player left, and it's not even close, you don't draft him just because he's 'BPA' you gotta weigh it out. I just think the Saints would be better served taking a top CB, Shazier, Mosley, etc in the first and waiting until the second (or maybe even later) to get a speedy and big WR.
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