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re: History thread: Belgium Terror in Congo over Rubber Harvest
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:50 am to CaptainBrannigan
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:50 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Wow. This could be the most ignorant thing ever said on the OT. Which is saying a lot.
You obviously haven't spent much time in Africa. For the most part, the Africans are incapable of functioning without guidance. They also exploit each other like you wouldn't believe.
See Robert Mugaba for example A.
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:58 am to okietiger
There was also another story about a woman who refused to be raped. They inserted clay where it didn't belong and she wasn't allowed to remove it for days.
The book also goes into the days of exploring the Congo. Remember Stanley from "Dr Livingston I presume," fame. He killed hundreds of people and shot his own people if they didn't work hard enough.
Also, think back to high school. Heart of Darkness is set here. They talk about coming to locations where there were piles of bodies. This was the reason.
The book also goes into the days of exploring the Congo. Remember Stanley from "Dr Livingston I presume," fame. He killed hundreds of people and shot his own people if they didn't work hard enough.
Also, think back to high school. Heart of Darkness is set here. They talk about coming to locations where there were piles of bodies. This was the reason.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:22 am to athenslife101
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The worst thing I heard of was they shoved dynamite up some of the butts of workers that pissed them off and lit the fuse.
I'm VERY skeptical of this, the clay story, and the 10mm number dead...wiki says from 2-15mm dead, so there seems to be a GREAT deal of unsubstantiated story telling around this topic...He and the Belgians were no doubt scumbags, but I'm pretty sure a great many of these tales are not exactly the truth
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:26 am to USMCTiger03
yea and all these Belgiums are so self righteous in condemning the Iraq war....
i work with a Belgian guy - cool guy tho
i work with a Belgian guy - cool guy tho
Posted on 3/21/14 at 6:36 am to okietiger
A lot of Africa's current problems stem from European actions during the colonial era. Not something a lot of people want to hear, and will likely get pushback on this thread, but it's true. Native people who showed intelligence or ambition were suppressed, imprisoned, or killed. Tribal animosities were encouraged in a divide and conquer strategy. And geographical boundaries were drawn over conference tables with no attention paid to reality on the ground.
That era didn't end until the seventies or later in some parts of Africa, and when the Europeans finally pulled out, there was a power vacuum with predictable results.
Some colonial regimes were better than others. The British were no saints, but they left a somewhat better legacy, and nations formed out of the British colonies have fared better after independence. The areas ruled by the French and Belgians, much worse.
That era didn't end until the seventies or later in some parts of Africa, and when the Europeans finally pulled out, there was a power vacuum with predictable results.
Some colonial regimes were better than others. The British were no saints, but they left a somewhat better legacy, and nations formed out of the British colonies have fared better after independence. The areas ruled by the French and Belgians, much worse.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 7:08 am to okietiger
Very atrocious what the Europeans did in Africa in their "new imperialism". If you're in to this kind of stuff, I suggest you read Rudyard Kipling's "The White Man's Burden". Keep in mind that they based a Disney movie off of this guy's writing. Anyways, it really reflects the attitude of the Europeans during this time
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:16 am to Pear
This is the setting for the book "heart of darkness" (the movie Apocalypse Now).
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:28 am to okietiger
Not much has changed in DNC
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:46 am to okietiger
So mid-1880's was clearly before automobiles. What did they use rubber for at this point in time that it was so valuable he was cutting off extremeties for?
Posted on 3/21/14 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Eat arse. 
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:17 am to BlownderLSU
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What did they use rubber for at this point in time that it was so valuable he was cutting off extremeties for?
Industrial revolution. Many, many uses.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 9:30 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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You obviously haven't spent much time in Africa. For the most part, the Africans are incapable of functioning without guidance. They also exploit each other like you wouldn't believe.
See Robert Mugaba for example A.
This like a mofo. The DRC is a fricked up place, the most horrific story I have ever been told came from there.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:17 am to okietiger
Amy good gorilla. Amy want rain drop drink.
Posted on 3/21/14 at 10:35 am to Jim Rockford
The European colonization of North America wasn't no cakewalk for my peeps neither. True Native Americans are a fricking endangered species.
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