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Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:11 am to
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:11 am to
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everything has about a 40% chance of being made.


That really expands the dumb zone. It's basically saying a Tyreke or Aminu 3 point shot is a better shot than the average player shooting anywhere between 3 feet and the 3 point line. That's crazy, and surely something that is only true in theory and not practice.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:14 am to
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That really expands the dumb zone. It's basically saying a Tyreke or Aminu 3 point shot is a better shot than the average player shooting anywhere between 3 feet and the 3 point line. That's crazy, and surely something that is only true in theory and not practice.


I would say context and design matter and neither guy should be looking to jack up 3s under any circumstance.

For both of those guys the question is what are they shooting on 15-18 footers and how frequently are they taking those shots. If they are <40% on 5 FGA/36, perhaps turning one or two of those into open 3s might be better in the long run?
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:57 am to
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That really expands the dumb zone.


Something I thought about some more- I don't know if that is true.

RA shots are gold. But mid range and non RA Paint shots both have their efficiency problems on a macro level. Certainly there are guys (Dirk mid range, Parker floaters in the paint) who flip that script, but on the whole those shots are the "hardest" or "least efficient" on a broad level. Non RA Paint shots have been typically excluded from the Dumb Zone from what I remember here, but they are hit at about the same rate as Mid Range despite being closer to the rim.

Teams w/ post players (Charlotte, Houston, Spurs, Memphis) and Miami were at the top of FG% in that zone. And Miami hit them 3% better than anyone else because LeBron and Wade. Spurs were 2 and hit them at 44%. They took 700 more 3PA and hit those at ~41%. Given eFG and expected value, that type of ratio (ignoring FG%) seems about right for an NBA team.

Meanwhile the Pelicans took roughly the same number of Non RA Paint shots and 3s and hit them at the same rate (that 3PT eFG% comes out slightly better than they shot at the rim as a team). Again, on a broad level, that doesn't make as much sense to me. I'm not sure you can contribute that season long distribution to the shots not being open. That seems more like a flaw in design, execution, or both.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 6:59 am
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