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re: Most Influential: John Hughes or Harold Ramis?

Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:10 pm to
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So, is it fair to compare the two and if so who do you think had the biggest cinematic influence?


I think it is fair - they're probably the "twin towers" of 1980s comedy directors.

Certainly Hughes influenced other filmmakers - look no further than Kevin Smith.

However, Ramis' films had a more broad appeal, in my opinion. Hughes films were targeted at my generation, specifically, as I was born in the late 60s and graduated from high school in the mid-80s.

There were fewer than 6 years separating them in age, they were both from the Upper Midwest and both had an affiliation with Chicago.

Both filmmakers produced popular comedy films, with, generally, a core group of actors we saw over and over.

For me - Ramis' films are funnier and stand the test of time, while I identify more with the characters in Hughes' films. I hear both men's films quoted on a regular basis by casual and more serious film fans. It is difficult to answer the question as to which man is/was more influential. Probably close, and probably Ramis.

Their significant interaction was National Lampoon's Vacation - a classic Hughes script, based on his real life experience going to Disneyland as a kid in the late 1950s, and was directed by Harold Ramis. One of the best comedies of all time.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:25 pm to
Ramis - they're just plain funnier.

Not a knock on Hughes. I think his movies are great, but I don't laugh at them like a Ramis film.

Eta:

And a Donut without a hole is a Danish....
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 5:31 pm to
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Their significant interaction was National Lampoon's Vacation - a classic Hughes script, based on his real life experience going to Disneyland as a kid in the late 1950s, and was directed by Harold Ramis. One of the best comedies of all time.


I think you said it best. Hughes quite literally put the zeitgeist of a generation to film. One can absolutely base an anthropological study of the 80s on his films.

Ramis and the SCTV/NL crew literally redefined modern American comedy and are as important to it as Monty Python is to modern British comedy.

Put together, the output was, as you accurately said it, one of the best comedies of all time.
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