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What is happening at the end of of LSU Basketball games?
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:26 am
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:26 am
Texas Tech - Had a comfortable lead but let them score the last 7 of the game to make it more interesting than necessary
ULM - Even though they won by 7, LSU allowed them to close the game on a nice run.
South Carolina - Came very close to blowing that game in the final minutes
Ole Miss- Total meltdown last night that finally caught up with them and resulted in a loss.
Combination of some poor decisions by coach and poor free throw shooting? From 2 minutes left in regulation to the end of OT we get outscored 24-5 and CJJ doesn't call a single timeout during that stretch if I'm not mistaken. At least I don't remember one being called so correct me if I'm wrong. How does he just sit there and watch that unfold? I don't understand.
And that zone offense they run.
ULM - Even though they won by 7, LSU allowed them to close the game on a nice run.
South Carolina - Came very close to blowing that game in the final minutes
Ole Miss- Total meltdown last night that finally caught up with them and resulted in a loss.
Combination of some poor decisions by coach and poor free throw shooting? From 2 minutes left in regulation to the end of OT we get outscored 24-5 and CJJ doesn't call a single timeout during that stretch if I'm not mistaken. At least I don't remember one being called so correct me if I'm wrong. How does he just sit there and watch that unfold? I don't understand.
And that zone offense they run.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:27 am to Hat Tricks
I ve been telling friends that for weeks LSU doesnt know how to close....its an alarming trend.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:33 am to L S Usetheforce
if hickey and stringer aren't draining 3's they have no shot. Too many forwards out on the floor and none can shoot. Offense needs to get more active because they come down and pass it back and forth behind 3 pt line then rush a drive or 3 ball. Its weak
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:34 am to Hat Tricks
They don't have a guy that can create his own shot. When your 2 best guards are under 6ft, you will struggle to get shots, especially to close out games trying to run clock.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:35 am to Hat Tricks
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From 2 minutes left in regulation to the end of OT we get outscored 24-5 and CJJ doesn't call a single timeout during that stretch if I'm not mistaken. At least I don't remember one being called so correct me if I'm wrong. How does he just sit there and watch that unfold?
I think we called one, with about 2:30 left in overtime, after we were down 7 points.
One big problem for closing is that we don't have a "go to guy". If we feed it to JOB, they will trap and he may get fouled and sent to the free throw line (57% shooter), or worse he may turn it over. Hickey can handle the ball, but what good is his drive when every defender knows he is too small to finish at the rim and has to rely on a pull up jumper.
Even with that, it's frustrating to watch us not run an offense and just watch the shot clock roll down until we force up a bad shot.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:40 am to Choupique19
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I think we called one, with about 2:30 left in overtime, after we were down 7 points.
Yeah, just went back and looked at the play by play. He did finally call one after Ole Miss had gone on a 14-2 run. And he called another with about a minute remaining. Sorry for the misinformation. Still terrible.
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One big problem for closing is that we don't have a "go to guy". If we feed it to JOB, they will trap and he may get fouled and sent to the free throw line (57% shooter), or worse he may turn it over. Hickey can handle the ball, but what good is his drive when every defender knows he is too small to finish at the rim and has to rely on a pull up jumper.
Even with that, it's frustrating to watch us not run an offense and just watch the shot clock roll down until we force up a bad shot.
Very frustrating.
1st Overtime Summary
TIME LSU SCORE OLE MISS
4:37 Andre Stringer missed Three Point Jumper. 69-69
4:37 69-69 Ole Miss Defensive Rebound.
4:34 Foul on Johnny O'Bryant III. 69-69
4:34 69-69 Demarco Cox missed Free Throw.
4:34 Jarell Martin Defensive Rebound. 69-69
4:04 Anthony Hickey missed Three Point Jumper. 69-69
4:04 69-69 Ole Miss Defensive Rebound.
3:47 69-71 Jarvis Summers made Jumper.
3:28 Jarell Martin missed Jumper. 69-71
3:28 69-71 LaDarius White Defensive Rebound.
3:00 69-71 Sebastian Saiz missed Layup.
3:00 Jordan Mickey Block. 69-71
2:58 69-71 Sebastian Saiz Offensive Rebound.
2:58 69-73 Sebastian Saiz made Layup.
2:57 Foul on Jarell Martin. 69-73
2:57 69-73 Sebastian Saiz missed Free Throw.
2:57 69-73 Aaron Jones Offensive Rebound.
2:54 69-76 Marshall Henderson made Three Point Jumper.
2:47 LSU Timeout
2:29 Anthony Hickey missed Three Point Jumper. 69-76
2:29 69-76 Sebastian Saiz Defensive Rebound.
2:24 Foul on Johnny O'Bryant III. 69-76
2:24 69-77 Sebastian Saiz made Free Throw.
2:24 69-78 Sebastian Saiz made Free Throw.
1:57 Shavon Coleman missed Three Point Jumper. 69-78
1:57 69-78 Jarvis Summers Defensive Rebound.
1:36 69-80 Aaron Jones made Dunk. Assisted by Jarvis Summers.
1:22 Shavon Coleman made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Anthony Hickey. 72-80
1:18 LSU Timeout
1:10 Foul on Anthony Hickey. 72-80
1:10 72-81 Marshall Henderson made Free Throw.
1:10 72-82 Marshall Henderson made Free Throw.
1:02 Jarell Martin Turnover. 72-82
1:02 72-82 LaDarius White Steal.
0:57 Foul on Shavon Coleman. 72-82
0:57 72-83 Jarvis Summers made Free Throw.
0:57 72-84 Jarvis Summers made Free Throw.
0:51 Shavon Coleman missed Three Point Jumper. 72-84
0:51 72-84 Sebastian Saiz Defensive Rebound.
0:46 Foul on Jarell Martin. 72-84
0:46 72-85 Sebastian Saiz made Free Throw.
0:46 72-86 Sebastian Saiz made Free Throw.
0:33 Andre Stringer missed Three Point Jumper. 72-86
0:33 Jordan Mickey Offensive Rebound. 72-86
0:27 Jordan Mickey missed Layup. 72-86
0:27 72-86 Sebastian Saiz Block.
0:24 72-86 Sebastian Saiz Defensive Rebound.
0:09 72-88 Aaron Jones made Dunk. Assisted by Marshall Henderson.
0:02 Anthony Hickey made Jumper. 74-88
0:00 End of Game
Only 3 shots that weren't 3 pointers were even attempted in OT. And we are supposed to have a good front court...remember?
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 7:43 am
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:41 am to Choupique19
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One big problem for closing is that we don't have a "go to guy".
This x1000
teams are playing zone and daring us to shoot the 3. To make things worse, JOB is struggling this season
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:41 am to Choupique19
last 4 possession of regulation
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
stringer gets fouled on ole miss's end and walk down and shoots free throws (not really a possession per se)
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
why the frick did JJ stop running the offense completely with 2 minutes still left in the game. you understand it with the last possession because you wanted to take the last shot but the two possessions prior are inexcusable.
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
stringer gets fouled on ole miss's end and walk down and shoots free throws (not really a possession per se)
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
why the frick did JJ stop running the offense completely with 2 minutes still left in the game. you understand it with the last possession because you wanted to take the last shot but the two possessions prior are inexcusable.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:44 am to bbap
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last 4 possession of regulation
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
stringer gets fouled on ole miss's end and walk down and shoots free throws (not really a possession per se)
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
why the frick did JJ stop running the offense completely with 2 minutes still left in the game. you understand it with the last possession because you wanted to take the last shot but the two possessions prior are inexcusable
Agree. Completely inexcusable that Stringer, who had the hot hand, didn't even touch the ball on the final couple possessions.
And how the frick didn't he call a timeout when we had the inbounds play under our own goal with like 3 seconds left on the shot clock? He was sitting on 3 timeouts at the time. At least attempt to draw up a play. We ended up turning it over on the inbound pass.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 7:50 am
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:44 am to bbap
Hickey is really hurting us this year
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:45 am to bbap
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why the frick did JJ stop running the offense completely with 2 minutes still left in the game. you understand it with the last possession because you wanted to take the last shot but the two possessions prior are inexcusable.
I don't have a problem with the strategy if you have a guy that can create. In college ball, you can take half a minute off the clock with one possession, so I understand milking the clock with the lead. Problem is we don't have a guy that is a creator.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:47 am to EarthwormJim
milking the clock by running your offense and taking up time and getting a good shot is different from just sitting with the ball 40 feet from the rim. it was only a 4 point lead with 2 minutes to go. turning the off switch on your motion offense and just saying here you go hickey go do something at the end of the shot clock is awful coaching.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 7:48 am
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:47 am to Hat Tricks
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He did finally call one after Ole Miss had gone on a 14-2 run. And he called another with about a minute remaining. Sorry for the misinformation. Still terrible.
Yep, I wasn't really trying to defend JJ on the lack of timeouts in the last few minutes of regulation. For that last play, we got an open look, so I have no problems with that. But bbap's post shows that we went at least the final 2 minutes of the game, and the first 3 minutes of overtime with only scoring on two free throws when we were fouled in the back court. We did not have good shots coming down the stretch.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:48 am to Hat Tricks
So, similar to LSU Football the last two years 
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:49 am to bbap
also on one possession hickey gets blocked and the ball goes out in the corner with 3 seconds left on the shot clock. there is less than 2 minutes left and you are inbounding from the corner.
you have 3 fricking timeouts. use one to try and get a play set up that at least gets you somewhat of a chance at scoring. possessions are crucial at that point and JJ is like naw im good.
you have 3 fricking timeouts. use one to try and get a play set up that at least gets you somewhat of a chance at scoring. possessions are crucial at that point and JJ is like naw im good.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:50 am to bbap
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also on one possession hickey gets blocked and the ball goes out in the corner with 3 seconds left on the shot clock. there is less than 2 minutes left and you are inbounding from the corner.
you have 3 fricking timeouts. use one to try and get a play set up that at least gets you somewhat of a chance at scoring. possessions are crucial at that point and JJ is like naw im good.
agree. see my above post.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:51 am to Hat Tricks
oh yeah i see now you made that exact point.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 7:58 am to bbap
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oh yeah i see now you made that exact point.
It's terrible enough that it is worth mentioning again.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:11 am to bbap
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hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
hold the ball with hickey until 7 seconds left and take a bad shot
why the frick did JJ stop running the offense completely with 2 minutes still left in the game. you understand it with the last possession because you wanted to take the last shot but the two possessions prior are inexcusable.
This is the most frustrating part of blowing this game in my mind. The amount of times I have seen us at the end of halves run the clock down to nothing and take a horrible shot is unreal.
Posted on 1/16/14 at 8:35 am to EarthwormJim
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They don't have a guy that can create his own shot. When your 2 best guards are under 6ft, you will struggle to get shots..
Especially when Stringer is ice cold. To me Mickey is easily our best scoring threat on the floor...plays within himself too unlike out less talented upperclassmen out there.
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