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re: Tom Jackson - Romo is a Top 8 QB
Posted on 12/24/13 at 12:55 pm to jg8623
Posted on 12/24/13 at 12:55 pm to jg8623
Can't really think of 7 that much better than him.
You have your indisputable top 4:
Manning/Brady/Brees/Rodgers (the top spot changes from year to year)
Romo is clearly ahead of the next group, which includes guys like Ryan/Newton/Big Ben. Then you have young guys still proving: Luck/Wilson/Griffin/Foles
You have your indisputable top 4:
Manning/Brady/Brees/Rodgers (the top spot changes from year to year)
Romo is clearly ahead of the next group, which includes guys like Ryan/Newton/Big Ben. Then you have young guys still proving: Luck/Wilson/Griffin/Foles
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 1:20 pm to OBUDan
quote:pretty much this, with the exception of Rivers, who I'd put at 5.
Can't really think of 7 that much better than him. You have your indisputable top 4: Manning/Brady/Brees/Rodgers (the top spot changes from year to year) Romo is clearly ahead of the next group, which includes guys like Ryan/Newton/Big Ben. Then you have young guys still proving: Luck/Wilson/Griffin/Foles
Romo is in the 6-8 range.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 2:07 pm to shel311
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pretty much this, with the exception of Rivers, who I'd put at 5.
Rivers used to be my #5 in 2010 for sure, but his two-year decline made everyone forget how good he was.
I think this would be my current top ten:
Peyton
Rodgers
Brees
Brady (was third before 2013)
Rivers
Romo
Ryan
Wilson
Big Ben
Foles
I do not feel very confident about the back end of the list. I want to put Luck in there, but that looks to still be 2014 at the earliest. Cam is probably the biggest exclusion. Dalton is starting to creep towards the top ten.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:33 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Peyton
Rodgers
Brees
Brady (was third before 2013)
Rivers
Romo
Ryan
Wilson
Off the top of my head, I think my top 8 would be exactly the same, definitely top 6.
After 8, I don't necessarily disagree, I just haven't looked much into it.
But that list is on point.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:40 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Peyton Rodgers Brees Brady (was third before 2013)
Do you realize what Brady is working with this year???? Amazing this guy has done SO much with such a variety of WRS over the years...
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:46 pm to dukke v
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Do you realize what Brady is working with this year???? Amazing this guy has done SO much with such a variety of WRS over the years...
This is the first smart comment you have made in this thread!
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:56 pm to Santa Claus
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How can Peyton be head of Eli? Eli has two Super Bowl rings, which clearly makes him the better QB.
I know what you're doing and it's a stupid argument. None of us who place a high value on championships are dumb enough to ignore accomplishments on the field.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:00 pm to OBUDan
Russell Wilson is a better QB than Romo. An earlier poster talked about the "it" factor. Romo may put up stats worthy of someone's Fantasy Football team but he just doesn't have that ingredient you want from your QB when an important (and I mean *really* important) game is on the line. In two seasons of football, I see that "it" factor residing within Wilson.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:24 pm to RollTide1987
The "it" factor.
Another great litmus test when discussing sports with people.
Another great litmus test when discussing sports with people.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:05 pm to shel311
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The "it" factor.
Another great litmus test when discussing sports with people.
So in other words, you have nothing intelligent to say so you're just going to sarcastically rebuke my comments?
Fair enough.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:11 pm to RollTide1987
isn't the eyeball test something looked at with great fondness in the state of Alabama? what makes eyeballs from other states less reliable?
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:43 pm to molsusports
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isn't the eyeball test something looked at with great fondness in the state of Alabama? what makes eyeballs from other states less reliable?
You seriously need to get over 2011, dude. It wasn't the state of Alabama who put UA into the title game with the "eyeball test" argument. Those were national writers and college coaches who did that.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:46 pm to RollTide1987
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So in other words, you have nothing intelligent to say so you're just going to sarcastically rebuke my comments?
In other words you don't know much about football, so you resort to saying somebody has an "it" factor. LOLZ
You people never learn. Keep watching sportscenter and letting the media narratives tell you what to think about sports.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:51 pm to shel311
quote:
shel311
By far, the most intelligent and unbiased poster on this entire site. We would be friends irl. No homo of course
Posted on 12/24/13 at 7:52 pm to UncleBlazer
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In other words you don't know much about football, so you resort to saying somebody has an "it" factor.
Ah...the old, "I know what I'm talking about and you don't" argument. I saw quite a few of those in debate class. That was usually a sign that the person who used it didn't know shite.
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You people never learn. Keep watching sportscenter and letting the media narratives tell you what to think about sports.
And you keep letting stats be the basis for your argument as that's all Romo has going for him. Trouble is....4,000+ yards in a pass happy league with rules that favor the offense is quickly becoming about as impressive as a 1,000-yard rusher in the college game.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:00 pm to UncleBlazer
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In other words you don't know much about football
I think he knows WAY more than you..............
Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:03 pm to RollTide1987
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Ah...the old, "I know what I'm talking about and you don't" argument. I saw quite a few of those in debate class. That was usually a sign that the person who used it didn't know shite.
Bro you just said somebody had an "it" factor. Lol
Anyway, Romo's spin move back to his left is probably the best escape move by an NFL qb today. Anybody have a gif of the one Sunday?
Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:04 pm to UncleBlazer
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Anyway, Romo's spin move back to his left is probably the best escape move by an NFL qb today
Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:04 pm to RollTide1987
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And you keep letting stats be the basis for your argument as that's all Romo has going for him. Trouble is....4,000+ yards in a pass happy league with rules that favor the offense is quickly becoming about as impressive as a 1,000-yard rusher in the college game.
Um, I have not posted a single stat in this thread, and I am not a super stat guy. I do think stats need to be in the argument however. Just not the be all end all.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 8:04 pm to UncleBlazer
The whole "it" factor thing is pretty stupid, but I can see the argument in its favor.
I can't understand why someone is saying Wilson has the "it" factor. What has he ever won?
I can't understand why someone is saying Wilson has the "it" factor. What has he ever won?
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