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Is Michigan State a lock for the Rose bowl
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:34 pm
regardless of the outcome of their game?
Of course if they win they will be playing, but if they lose....
If both FSU and OSU win, the Orange will get the first pick of all the at-large teams then the Rose Bowl gets a pick......who would they go for? Seems like to maintain the tradition they'll pick MSU.
Of course if they win they will be playing, but if they lose....
If both FSU and OSU win, the Orange will get the first pick of all the at-large teams then the Rose Bowl gets a pick......who would they go for? Seems like to maintain the tradition they'll pick MSU.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:36 pm to castorinho
yes, especially since Wisky lost this weekend. that was really the only other option
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:38 pm to castorinho
Rose Bowl likes their tradition... they threw a tantrum when TCU made it a few years back. Remember how they bent backward to pick Illinois? I know they picked Texas/Oklahoma but there weren't any worthwhile teams to replace them those years. Cal in 2004 maybe had a complaint
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:39 pm to castorinho
Mich St. is #10 in BCS have to stay above #14 for the bid.
They will most likely be jumped by Clemson (#13) and Oregon (#12) who are finished. ASU is #11 if they lose to Stanford, they probably won't jump Mich State, but if ASU wins Stanford won't fall out of the top 14 from 7. Northern Illinois is #14 and plays Bowling Green so I'd say a solid win keeps them ahead of Mich State but that's guess work. Then you've got LSU at #15, UCF at #16 and Oklahoma at #17. Oklahoma plays Ok. State and a win would put them ahead of a Mich. St team that loses.
Lots of moving parts but I'd think a Michigan State loss puts them most likely out of the top 14, because I have to imagine Oregon and Clemson jump them easily, and then it comes down to 1 or 2 teams stealing a spot.
I think what we all want to happen is for Duke and Michigan State to win though...
They will most likely be jumped by Clemson (#13) and Oregon (#12) who are finished. ASU is #11 if they lose to Stanford, they probably won't jump Mich State, but if ASU wins Stanford won't fall out of the top 14 from 7. Northern Illinois is #14 and plays Bowling Green so I'd say a solid win keeps them ahead of Mich State but that's guess work. Then you've got LSU at #15, UCF at #16 and Oklahoma at #17. Oklahoma plays Ok. State and a win would put them ahead of a Mich. St team that loses.
Lots of moving parts but I'd think a Michigan State loss puts them most likely out of the top 14, because I have to imagine Oregon and Clemson jump them easily, and then it comes down to 1 or 2 teams stealing a spot.
I think what we all want to happen is for Duke and Michigan State to win though...
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:41 pm to JB Bama
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I think what we all want
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:45 pm to castorinho
I guess there's a chance that they drop out of the top 14, making them ineligible for at large selection.
Otherwise, there's a really good chance. Obviously the Rose Bowl isn't going to take take a second PAC-12 team, and the Orange Bowl probably takes Alabama to replace FSU.
Someone is going to get stuck with UCF and Northern Illinois.
And then the last at-large team... Baylor? Oregon? AZ State?
Otherwise, there's a really good chance. Obviously the Rose Bowl isn't going to take take a second PAC-12 team, and the Orange Bowl probably takes Alabama to replace FSU.
Someone is going to get stuck with UCF and Northern Illinois.
And then the last at-large team... Baylor? Oregon? AZ State?
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:46 pm to castorinho
ASU/Stanford v Michigan state is pretty much a lock.
The Rose Bowl suffers from tradition...we all know how terrible that is in today's world.
The Rose Bowl suffers from tradition...we all know how terrible that is in today's world.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:47 pm to goldennugget
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And then the last at-large team... Baylor? Oregon? AZ State?
Baylor or Clemson
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:47 pm to goldennugget
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Cal in 2004 maybe had a complaint
Coaches poll made the Rose Bowl pick for them
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:49 pm to LSUBoo
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Someone is going to get stuck with UCF and Northern Illinois.
Orange will getting the first and last picks .....and I personally think NIU gets taken off the board before UCF because of the Jordan Lynch factor . So we're looking at Bama vs UCF
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:54 pm to castorinho
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I personally think NIU gets taken off the board before UCF because of the Jordan Lynch factor
I would think so yea
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So we're looking at Bama vs UCF
RIP UCF
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:56 pm to castorinho
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Orange will getting the first and last picks
I think Fiesta Bowl has the last pick.
LINK
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4. After steps No. 1, 2, and 3 have been completed, any bowl with an unfilled slot shall select a team from the automatic qualifiers and/or at-large teams in the following order:
• January 2011 games - Sugar, Orange, Fiesta
• January 2012 games - Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
• January 2013 games - Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
• January 2014 games - Orange, Sugar, Fiesta
So Orange gets Alabama vs. that last at-large, whether it's Baylor or Oregon or maybe Clemson?
Sugar gets SEC Champ vs. whoever they think will draw the most... I would think UCF is the better attendance draw?
Fiesta gets Northern Illinois.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 1:57 pm to LSUBoo
I was looking at 2013 games , completely ignored the January
Posted on 12/2/13 at 2:01 pm to castorinho
Hoping Bama sneaks in the Rose or the Sugar.
But if we play NIU or UCF i will be tuning out of this one.
But if we play NIU or UCF i will be tuning out of this one.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 2:03 pm to cjared036
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Hoping Bama sneaks in the Rose or the Sugar.
But if we play NIU or UCF i will be tuning out of this one.
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The ESPN projections have it Sugar vs. Baylor if Ohio State loses or Orange Bowl vs. Clemson if Ohio State & FSU win.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 2:16 pm to castorinho
Spartantailgate/Red Cedar Message Board posters have been saying mostly lock since last night, partly because of Brad Edwards and Jerry Palm's projections. MSU needs a weird sweet spot if they lose IMO. A close loss could sort of screw them if Auburn somehow jumps OSU, but I think they still would get an Orange Bowl or something. On the other hand, I don't think they want to flirt with what a 35-10 loss would do to them. A 10 point loss that is definitive for OSU, but respectable for MSU gets them to Pasadena. But, again, YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 2:49 pm to castorinho
There's virtually no way they drop out of the top 14 unless they get completely annihilated. That would require UCF to leapfrog LSU and MSU on the final day, which is really unlikely (UCF is so colossally undervalued by the coaches' poll alone that it almost certainly won't happen). Alternatively, LSU would have to be ranked ahead of them, which again isn't happening.
So they'll be eligible and honestly, it's not like their choices are especially great. They won't take the loser of the P12CG or Oregon, which leaves Clemson or MSU. Why would Clemson be a better pick? They wouldn't.
So they'll be eligible and honestly, it's not like their choices are especially great. They won't take the loser of the P12CG or Oregon, which leaves Clemson or MSU. Why would Clemson be a better pick? They wouldn't.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 5:29 pm to castorinho
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Orange will getting the first and last picks .....and I personally think NIU gets taken off the board before UCF because of the Jordan Lynch factor . So we're looking at Bama vs UCF
Wrong. Orange gets to replace FSU, and then has the first pick when it comes to at-large selection. Bowl selection order this year is Orange, Sugar, Fiesta.
ETA - Germans. My bad haha
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 5:31 pm
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