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re: Spoke with an NFL scout regarding early departures today.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:42 pm to Dudebro2
Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:42 pm to Dudebro2
There are a lot of assumptions there if he wins the Butkus, but what about guys like Hubbard and Mosely or pass rushing LB's? If the team falls off, he might not get the attention. Its not so much that his play would fall off, but it really couldn't improve and other scouts may hold that against him. If he was taken in the top 15-20, he'd make more off his first contract, but that's still an extra year at zero and he is a year closer to the 2nd contract. I understand people on the pro side thinking another year of playing is better, but like i said, he graduated, was in the program 4 years, was a 2nd round pick. If the only reason for him to stay is maybe he moves up, i don't think that's good enough.
Very easy to say it is worth the risk when it is not your money being risked. Generally I agree with the above, if not rounds 1-3 stay, except for RB's. I think Simon should have stayed he had a lot of room to move up and was a true Jr, same with Faulk due to injury. The rest I thought going made sense. Even Montgomery was drafted in the 3rd and it seems his "drop" had a lot more to do with interviews and stuff he did/said like taking games off, than that he didn't play enough.
Of this year's crop, I think Collins should stay. He plays a high value position that gets drafted high and this is his first year playing it at the college level. An extra year could greatly benefit him. Hill, Landry, Beckham, might as well go.
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moving up to be top 1, 2 or 3 rounds is huge in pay is it worth the risk. He believes so but he also states that every player is player specific obviously.
Very easy to say it is worth the risk when it is not your money being risked. Generally I agree with the above, if not rounds 1-3 stay, except for RB's. I think Simon should have stayed he had a lot of room to move up and was a true Jr, same with Faulk due to injury. The rest I thought going made sense. Even Montgomery was drafted in the 3rd and it seems his "drop" had a lot more to do with interviews and stuff he did/said like taking games off, than that he didn't play enough.
Of this year's crop, I think Collins should stay. He plays a high value position that gets drafted high and this is his first year playing it at the college level. An extra year could greatly benefit him. Hill, Landry, Beckham, might as well go.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 6:48 pm
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:56 pm to H-Town Tiger
H-Town you have some very valid points and one of the things he said was "it is easy to say all these things when it is not your money" but he has been a scout for just under 20years and he also said everything he is saying is generalization but most of it can apply to 90 to 95% of the early entrants. Again he really hates sports agents because he feels they really lead these players on and end up hurting the individuals they are supposed to be representing. He also stated that there is no shortage of talent in the NFL it is a shortage of impact talent which he states you typically don't get from the lower rounds.
He talked about Montgomery and he stated that everything Montgomery has done is self inflicted and that happens, but he thinks the Montgomery issues are maturity and that again would have been better served in college maturing another year.
He talked about Montgomery and he stated that everything Montgomery has done is self inflicted and that happens, but he thinks the Montgomery issues are maturity and that again would have been better served in college maturing another year.
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Of this year's crop, I think Collins should stay. He plays a high value position that gets drafted high and this is his first year playing it at the college level. An extra year could greatly benefit him. Hill, Landry, Beckham, might as well go.
He said the same thing, Collins would be smart to stay because with a good year "nothing to believe he won't" and staying healthy "again a risk but he feels it can be easy to calculate it" he should be an easy mid 1st rounder and that will be huge as to what he will probably be drafted this year if he does go. He stated it will really depend on how well Collins does in the combines. He completely understands if Hill goes and he truly recognizes the wear and tear on RB's and with Hill he said he probably will go and the agents will be all over him. But again he truly feels that Hill would be the 1st running back off the board next year, and he will not be this year. He feels if Hill were to stay healthy "obviously the risk" and with the O-Line LSU will probably have coming back that Hill will have a monster year and that could probably mean an extra $5-7million in money to him over the life of his first contract.
Regarding OBJ & Landry it is projecting but he just can't see their draft status improving with another year in school and an inexperienced QB at the helm. So he would advise them to go.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:11 pm to H-Town Tiger
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but that's still an extra year at zero and he is a year closer to the 2nd contract
He said he was generalizing but he said you can't look at it like that, it is over the life of his contract and you have to look at it as life span in the NFL. He said there is nothing to say because you left early that you will stay longer than the NFL average in years. So if your first contract is worth $5mil over the life if you leave early but $10mil if you would have stayed. End of story you are going to make $5mil more. Your second contract is what it is and will be that no matter what if you perform. So over the life of your 2nd contract if it is $30mil you are going to make that no matter what. If it is a year delayed, you don't make that up in the $5mil you lost from leaving early as opposed to staying.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 10/22/13 at 1:03 pm to H-Town Tiger
With this defense I could see Minter having at least 9 tackles a game and at least 2 tfl each game. I don't know if that would be an improvement, but the way he attacked the gaps he would have a lot of tackles with this years defense because he would be the only one there. IMO I think he would have improved his game staying another year.
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