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re: Simmons continues ragging on Pelicans...
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:07 pm to corndeaux
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:07 pm to corndeaux
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Cap space, which is what some seem to be concerned about with these signings. You can't say the contracts cap the team out and are unmoveable and then complain if they move them to open up cap space.
You have to eat alot of space for whoever you trade for. The Raptors got stuck with Novak's contract and the Hawks got stuck with pieces in the Johnson trade (Stevenson). You can't shed it in a season. Kind of like when we did the Oak/Ariza trade. You can move them, but you end up eating a bad contract for a bit before you get the freedom. If they do that sometime this season or before next season, you will end up taking on a bad contract and maybe get enough room for a exception type trade. I just don't think the team will get much if anything in return.
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Well duh. But he can move them to reshape the roster if it doesn't work.
He is free to do whatever it takes. But those two contracts (Evans and Gordon) are the corner stone of his legacy, not Davis falling in his lap. If one or both don't work, it pretty much means his demise. I think it's interesting he doubled down like this, it's a huge risk and I kind of admire him for taking a chance. But it will be a killer if it don't work.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 8:29 am to brmark70816
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You have to eat alot of space for whoever you trade for.
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The Raptors got stuck with Novak's contract and the Hawks got stuck with pieces in the Johnson trade (Stevenson)
Novak is $3.5M/year for 3 more years for one of the premier 3pt shooters. I could live with that. Camby is reportedly $4.5M and partial guaranteed for next year and Richardson is $1M, with no guaranteed money after this season. Not great, but not cap destroying either.
Stevenson was an expiring $2.5M deal, similar to every other guy in the Johnson deal. You aren't talking about crippling contracts here.
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If they do that sometime this season or before next season
No chance in hell they move anyone this season or before next for anything other than a player they really want. With the upheaval this summer (again), this roster needs time to play together.
I imagine this board will be out of control the first few months of the season when the team is playing something like .400 ball. I fully expect a strong second half of the season as they develop an identity.
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But those two contracts (Evans and Gordon) are the corner stone of his legacy
Morey's epitaph was being written last summer. Things can change very quickly. Especially with new CBA limiting contract length, bad deals don't cripple teams the way they used to.
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I think it's interesting he doubled down like this, it's a huge risk and I kind of admire him for taking a chance.
I agree. I advocated a Gordon FOR Evans swap. I never thought much about Gordon AND Evans. I have some reservations, but I think it can work with smart rotations- not exactly a Monty strong suit- and a revamped system.
I can understand doubts on the roster. It is an unconventional depth chart. Seriously, 7 of the top 8 guys are combo guards or stretch 4s. Takes away some things, but opens up lots of new possibilities. It will be a very interesting next couple of years.
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