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Leased vehicles tax benefit

Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 2:44 pm
What are the tax benefits for a leased vehicle used primarily for business use?

Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 3:22 pm to
You can deduct the lease payments attributable to business use of the vehicle. This may result in a greater deduction than purchase and depreciation of the same vehicle due to limitations imposed by Congress to discourage business purchases of luxury vehicles.
Posted by mileypie17
Houston, Tx
Member since Sep 2010
11 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 4:26 pm to
The entire lease payment can be written off?

If so, this is definitely something I need to look into.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77720 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 4:29 pm to
So leasing a vehicle allows you to deduct the monthly expense (car note) entirely and mileage too?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77720 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

The entire lease payment can be written off?


Sounds like maybe some of it can be, I've been researching it online. It's a bit confusing hence why I asked on here to see if anyone knew for sure.
This post was edited on 7/24/13 at 4:41 pm
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/24/13 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

The entire lease payment can be written off?
Not unless the vehicle is used exclusively for business. Otherwise you pro-rate between business and personal use. The deduction is limited to the business use percentage.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77720 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 8:14 pm to
What if it's 70% business use? Let's say lease payment is 400 per month, what would be the tax savings?
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2009
7357 posts
Posted on 7/24/13 at 11:23 pm to
I'm assuming no deductions can be made for lease payments when mileage for business usage is reimbursable?
Posted by fratmonster
Member since Oct 2005
10942 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I'm assuming no deductions can be made for lease payments when mileage for business usage is reimbursable?




I'd also like to know this
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77720 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 8:44 am to
Maybe not the full mileage rate but a portion of it? I'd like some clarity on this as well.
Posted by Shankopotomus
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/25/13 at 9:30 am to
I would think if you are deducting the lease payments then you cannot also deduct mileage....sounds like double dipping but I am no CPA
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83650 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 9:46 am to
quote:

I would think if you are deducting the lease payments then you cannot also deduct mileage....sounds like double dipping but I am no CPA


Agree...

Whats the current reimbursement, 56 cents a mile?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77720 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 11:25 am to
Yeah it's either .54 or .56 cents per mile. Not sure...
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83650 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Yeah it's either .54 or .56 cents per mile. Not sure...



Pretty gangsta... You figure if you get good gas mileage, you are only paying around .14c a mile in gas.

I know the other .40 is supposed to make up for wear and tear, but if you have a reliable older ride that isn't going to really depreciate extensively, you can make a little cash off the deal.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77720 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 11:33 am to
Good point. I guess leasing a car if used for business is the way to go? I don't think a car that is purchased would have this same deduction?
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

deduct the monthly expense (car note) entirely and mileage too?


I think you'll find that it's an either/or situation. A portion of the mileage allowance is to cover the capital or lease cost of the vehicle. If you expense the lease cost you would also expense gas, maintenance and insurance.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83650 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I guess leasing a car if used for business is the way to go?


Well if you lease, you need to make sure that your lease allots enough mileage for you. If you go over your allotted mileage, they will arse rape you.

Hence why I said if you own a slightly older, reliable vehicle, that isn't going to devalue much... That would be the way to go.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77720 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 1:38 pm to
15,000 miles per year isn't too bad. It's 18 cents per mile if you go over.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83650 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

15,000 miles per year isn't too bad. It's 18 cents per mile if you go over.


K, just making sure

Wouldn't want you to get one with a 12000 and you slaughter it and end up with 5k more miles than alloted.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77720 posts
Posted on 7/25/13 at 1:47 pm to
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