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How do they other teams sign superstars under the cap?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:55 pm
We have signed some good players but are still missing pieces. How the hell do big market teams sign 3 all-stars and have money left over to field a team? Please educate me. Can you go over the cap and pay a tax? If so can an owner just bankroll a championship team?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:57 pm to Babychiva
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Can you go over the cap and pay a tax?
Of course. It's the NBA.
No one here can correctly explain to you the cap and its details. I'd suggest googling it/researching it yourself.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:57 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
Ok so can we just go over? Howard just got 22 a year...
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:58 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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some go over
not when signing big FAs
imagine if the pels had no gordon or ryno contract this offseason. that's about $22M more in cap room that we'd have
consider that we acquired about $21M in contracts and only gave up like $6M, and you'll see the theoretical space we'd have
and lebron, wade, and bosh all took slight paycuts to sign with the heat
Posted on 7/6/13 at 8:59 pm to Professor Parks
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No one here can correctly explain to you the cap and its details.
other than exception amounts, there are plenty of posters who can explain the NBA cap
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:00 pm to Babychiva
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Howard just got 22 a year...
his initial salary won't be $22M. i'd guess it's more like 16-18M
the rockets had that much cap room
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ok but Gordon and ryno do not makeup James, or wade money.
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:03 pm to Babychiva
Sorry I'm a newbie in basketball but what part of a salary counts against the cap? If you pay a guy 1 mil this year and owe him 21 next, you have to get rid of home after a year right?
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:07 pm to Babychiva
Current year salary counts against the cap. So in that case, this year it'd be $1M, next it would be $21M, and yeah, in all likelihood the front office would be making moves to get rid of the guy in preparation for that huge cap hit.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:07 pm to Babychiva
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Ok but Gordon and ryno do not makeup James, or wade money.
gordon's salary this year isn't that far off of their starting salaries
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:09 pm to lsutothetop
there are rules about salary jumps. typically salaries can only increase by a certain % (like 15-18% or something)
now the asik deal? i'm not 100% sure how that was allowed. that's a highly technical thing. his cap hit is only $8.33M though
*ETA: i think only his cap # affects their salary cap. the rest is just payroll (and a luxury tax issue)
now the asik deal? i'm not 100% sure how that was allowed. that's a highly technical thing. his cap hit is only $8.33M though
*ETA: i think only his cap # affects their salary cap. the rest is just payroll (and a luxury tax issue)
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:14 pm to Babychiva
Richer owners are more willing to pay the lux tax
small markets typically don't have that. That's why Mikael Prokorov can overpay
small markets typically don't have that. That's why Mikael Prokorov can overpay
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:27 pm to lsutothetop
but the issue is how they go from $5M $5M to $15M or so. raises are supposed to have a cap
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
He's getting a (huge) extension in that scenario. I'm assuming the rookie contract was for 5M and he got a 1-year 15M extension at the end of that.
That might be wrong though
ETA: It is. From Grantland's Robert Mays:
LINK
That might be wrong though
ETA: It is. From Grantland's Robert Mays:
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The real problem for the Bulls is that Houston GM Daryl Morey is an evil mastermind. Thanks to a loophole in the new CBA, Chicago wouldn’t owe Asik an even $8 million a year over the three-year deal. As laid out by John Hollinger, there’s a provision that limits the amount of money a player like Asik (a restricted free agent with one or two seasons in the league) can be paid in the first two years of a new contract. In years one and two, Asik can make the maximum of the mid-level exception (around $5 million), but in year three, Houston can offer him any amount up to the maximum salary.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:34 pm to Babychiva
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How do they other teams sign superstars under the cap?
Magic.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:36 pm to lsutothetop
that explains it. that's a highly detailed loop hole, though
Posted on 7/6/13 at 10:20 pm to Babychiva
Teams can sign a player in free agency even if they are over the cap but they will have to do a sign and trade. For example, the lakers did a sign and trade last yr to acquire Dwight and Nash
Posted on 7/7/13 at 10:09 am to Babychiva
In the NBA between the various exceptions and the ability to S&T, and the ability to go over the cap in signing your own players, there is more flexibility in building a competitive roster when a team is above the cap instead of below it.
Under the cap, you have less access to your exceptions, and a team probably has a less than full roster in order to create the room so you've got fewer assets and moving parts to work in the trade market. Being perpetually under the cap, or trying to clear huge room for FA is generally a losing strategy in the NBA, and is usually a lousy way to build a team.
Under the cap, you have less access to your exceptions, and a team probably has a less than full roster in order to create the room so you've got fewer assets and moving parts to work in the trade market. Being perpetually under the cap, or trying to clear huge room for FA is generally a losing strategy in the NBA, and is usually a lousy way to build a team.
This post was edited on 7/7/13 at 10:13 am
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