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re: Liverpool FC 2013/2014 - Season Long Thread
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:59 am to choppadocta
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:59 am to choppadocta
Also, apparently we are also willing to quadruple Moreno's wages on a 5 yr deal.
Suso is quoted as saying that Sevilla is a great club, but it makes no sense for him to go on loan for another season... with LFC in the UCL, he'd like to stay and fight for his spot.
So, I don't know what that means for a potential loan, as part of the Moreno deal.
I have also read that Alberto to Malaga on a year loan... May be best, if he can get some playing time, we may be able to get most of our money back selling him to someone in Spain next season..
Suso is quoted as saying that Sevilla is a great club, but it makes no sense for him to go on loan for another season... with LFC in the UCL, he'd like to stay and fight for his spot.
So, I don't know what that means for a potential loan, as part of the Moreno deal.
I have also read that Alberto to Malaga on a year loan... May be best, if he can get some playing time, we may be able to get most of our money back selling him to someone in Spain next season..
Posted on 5/30/14 at 6:48 pm to TFTC
So just looking at a potential "budget" for this window
In
Lambert ~ £4m
Moreno ~ £18m
Lallana ~£25m
Can ~£10m
Lovren/Caulker ~£10m
Shaqiri ~£18m
Vorm ~£5m
Total ~£90m
While that is certainly far from a guarantee of who we'll get and how much we'll pay, I just wanted to get an idea of some of the more likely players we're after and what their prices are. So if we are serious about spending this kind of money, I think it'll be interesting to see who we sell to keep us too far in the red.
I think Assaidi is pretty much a done deal, Reina will be once we find a buyer, Aspas unless they just decide to loan him to increase his value, and potentially Agger and Lucas (although I'm not sure about them unless a strong bid was put in for them). So those sales could give us anywhere between £10m and £30m I think depending on if we sell the latter two.
Clearly if we want to buy the 5-6 players that can potentially step into the first XI, we're gonna pay for it so I'm not sure our money will go as far as we'd like, but the above or something similar wouldn't be a bad foundation. I would like to see us make a little bit of a bigger splash at CB, but Lovren could be interesting to challenge Skrtel while him, Ilori, and Sakho could be a solid 3 rotating in the back for a while if they're able to live up to their potential.
In
Lambert ~ £4m
Moreno ~ £18m
Lallana ~£25m
Can ~£10m
Lovren/Caulker ~£10m
Shaqiri ~£18m
Vorm ~£5m
Total ~£90m
While that is certainly far from a guarantee of who we'll get and how much we'll pay, I just wanted to get an idea of some of the more likely players we're after and what their prices are. So if we are serious about spending this kind of money, I think it'll be interesting to see who we sell to keep us too far in the red.
I think Assaidi is pretty much a done deal, Reina will be once we find a buyer, Aspas unless they just decide to loan him to increase his value, and potentially Agger and Lucas (although I'm not sure about them unless a strong bid was put in for them). So those sales could give us anywhere between £10m and £30m I think depending on if we sell the latter two.
Clearly if we want to buy the 5-6 players that can potentially step into the first XI, we're gonna pay for it so I'm not sure our money will go as far as we'd like, but the above or something similar wouldn't be a bad foundation. I would like to see us make a little bit of a bigger splash at CB, but Lovren could be interesting to challenge Skrtel while him, Ilori, and Sakho could be a solid 3 rotating in the back for a while if they're able to live up to their potential.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:02 am to TheZaba
especially if we bring in Can or someone similar, I expect Lucas to leave. I think he will want to play, and he's already indicated some intent to explore leaving.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 9:32 am to Tigerstark
Kolo has Malaria....
Is he still under contract for next year?
Is he still under contract for next year?
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:53 pm to TheZaba
quote:/Caulker ~£10m
Lambert ~ £4m
Moreno ~ £18m
Lallana ~£25m
Can ~£10m
Lovren
Shaqiri ~£18m
Vorm ~£5m
It is really starting to look like the top 5 are happening... Would you guys be happy with that? I would...
Obviously, the last two would be icing on the cake...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:55 pm to Tigerstark
quote:
Is he still under contract for next year?
yeah, he signed a two yr deal... I wouldn't be surprised to see him go, especially if we get Lovren... I would hope to get a small fee, but I could even see us releasing him for free...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:10 pm to TheZaba
quote:
I would like to see us make a little bit of a bigger splash at CB, but Lovren could be interesting
I really like him a lot... very good on the ball and a supposed leader on the back line, which we sorely miss... I think he is an upgrade over Skrtel...
I just don't see us getting a CB in that upper tier of established stars, given that PSG just over inflated the frick out of that market...
I am interested to see what we do with Ilori. I think he would be best served on loan another year and then coming into the team allowing us to sell Skrtel next season (assuming we sign Lovren/Caulker)... but if we sell Agger, Coates and Toure... we may need him for depth
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:31 pm to TFTC
quote:I still can't believe they paid that much for Luiz. I know we weren't going to get an elite CB, but that transfer fee made getting someone in the upper echelon nearly impossible
I just don't see us getting a CB in that upper tier of established stars, given that PSG just over inflated the frick out of that market...
ETA not to hate on Lovren, but I meant finding someone who was clearly ahead of the CB's we have. I think Lovren probably should come in and start but I'm not sure how much better he is than the guys we have already, even though he's still a little young by CB standards
quote:I'd like to see him go out on another loan, preferably in England. And I know Agger may be hesitant to stay without playing regularly, but I'd love to keep him for depth and because he loves the club. But we do have Kelly and Wisdom who could potentially step in if necessary although I imagine those would be more worse case scenario, although Kelly is losing time to make an impact on the club so this could be a make it or break it year for him given the younger guys at RB coming through the ranks.
I am interested to see what we do with Ilori. I think he would be best served on loan another year and then coming into the team allowing us to sell Skrtel next season (assuming we sign Lovren/Caulker)... but if we sell Agger, Coates and Toure... we may need him for depth
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:43 pm to TheZaba
yeah, I wouldn't mind Agger back, but i think we need to sell now to get any kind of value for him and he is good enough to play every match for someone...
I hate to say it, but I think his time is coming up shortly at LFC... I think Johnson (if he stays), Wisdom and Flanno may be ahead of him in the RB pecking order at the moment... And with what we have currently and what we are looking to sign at CB, I can't see a future for him there at LFC (where I always thought his long term future was)...
He didn't look particularly sharp anytime he played last season and I'm sure that knee injury took its toll on him... With are aspirations, I think he gets left behind...
I always thought his future was at CB too, because of his physicality and thats where he played in youth teams... I was kinda surprised he played at RB for Derby too... he doesn't offer a whole lot going forward, but he is good defensively and would probably bring good balance to the team if we sign someone like Moreno at LB...
quote:
Kelly
I hate to say it, but I think his time is coming up shortly at LFC... I think Johnson (if he stays), Wisdom and Flanno may be ahead of him in the RB pecking order at the moment... And with what we have currently and what we are looking to sign at CB, I can't see a future for him there at LFC (where I always thought his long term future was)...
He didn't look particularly sharp anytime he played last season and I'm sure that knee injury took its toll on him... With are aspirations, I think he gets left behind...
quote:
Wisdom
I always thought his future was at CB too, because of his physicality and thats where he played in youth teams... I was kinda surprised he played at RB for Derby too... he doesn't offer a whole lot going forward, but he is good defensively and would probably bring good balance to the team if we sign someone like Moreno at LB...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:44 pm to TFTC
quote:
I just don't see us getting a CB in that upper tier of established stars
Van Dijk is better than Lovvren and much cheaper (sadly). Pool could do better.
Posted on 5/31/14 at 1:58 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:
Van Dijk
Not familiar with him at all...
Edit: just watched his YouTube club... He looks like a man against boys in some of those highlights... Half the time it looked like a CFs highlight reel... He needs to work on his finishing
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 5/31/14 at 6:07 pm to TFTC
Interesting Link to Cesc
For the record, I don't believe it (Daily Mail)... not that we may have registered interest, but that we are "leading the chase"
But for £5mm more than Lallana, it would be a no brainer who I'd rather have...
I would have to imagine if he comes back to the EPL, Arsenal would be his first choice (though they kinda don't need him) or someone like Man City would out bid for him...
For the record, I don't believe it (Daily Mail)... not that we may have registered interest, but that we are "leading the chase"
But for £5mm more than Lallana, it would be a no brainer who I'd rather have...
I would have to imagine if he comes back to the EPL, Arsenal would be his first choice (though they kinda don't need him) or someone like Man City would out bid for him...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 6:12 pm to TFTC
Except he would more than double Lallana's wages. Sure he's a good player, but no way we could afford him
Posted on 5/31/14 at 6:14 pm to TheZaba
I think we could afford him... I think if he would come here, we could easily pay him...
Now, I don't think we'd pay the price I've seen some suggest... Over £40mm... That £30mm price tag has just been floated today or yesterday..
Now, I don't think we'd pay the price I've seen some suggest... Over £40mm... That £30mm price tag has just been floated today or yesterday..
This post was edited on 5/31/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 5/31/14 at 6:33 pm to TFTC
Speaking of wages, this sounds ridiculous
Raheem Sterling to get £100k/wk after World Cup
That doesn't make sense after one good season for a 19 yr old...
Raheem Sterling to get £100k/wk after World Cup
That doesn't make sense after one good season for a 19 yr old...
Posted on 5/31/14 at 6:46 pm to TFTC
I guess I should rephrase. I don't think that we can't afford him, but that we won't be willing to pay what he makes at Barcelona. Suarez is the only player on that team that makes that much, with Gerrard a little ways behind him, and then the rest of the squad a little ways behind the captain. And probably rightfully so.
I'm not sure what everyone else will think with a new guy making so much more than them. Suarez has earned it. Stevie has earned it. Sturridge and the young guys are getting there, but FSG has kind of drawn their line in the sand that they aren't gonna pay everyone ungodly wages. You have to earn it on the pitch.
I'm not sure what everyone else will think with a new guy making so much more than them. Suarez has earned it. Stevie has earned it. Sturridge and the young guys are getting there, but FSG has kind of drawn their line in the sand that they aren't gonna pay everyone ungodly wages. You have to earn it on the pitch.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:41 pm to TheZaba
Talks with Southampton have been at a little bit of a standstill trying to agree for a fee
#FreeAdam
Although we can't be too mad because we essentially did the same thing with Suarez, but I really hope we don't spend more than 25m on him. The only reason the price is so high is because they're agreement with Bournemouth to repay part of the transfer fee. I really like Lallana and think he'd fit in well, but I would've told them to eff off after they turned down 20m.
#FreeAdam
Although we can't be too mad because we essentially did the same thing with Suarez, but I really hope we don't spend more than 25m on him. The only reason the price is so high is because they're agreement with Bournemouth to repay part of the transfer fee. I really like Lallana and think he'd fit in well, but I would've told them to eff off after they turned down 20m.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 6:12 pm to TheZaba
I know what you're saying and I would agree on an unestablished player, but if we decided Cesc was the player we needed, I don think it'd be an issue... All that said, I agree it factors in to the decision and he isn't the missing piece, so in that regard, it may not warrant the financial outlay...
I'd be curious to what Sanchez would demand, I see him as a much more realistic target and "puzzle piece" to our attack.. I know we need defense and have faith that will be addressed. It sounds like Moreno is close to being done, which is exciting...
It is obvious Lallana is BRs main target this summer and I'm very interest to see how this ends up... Are we willing to walk away or is he gonna end up doing whatever it takes to get his man... Like you, I think £30mm is wayyyy to much, but in the grand scheme of things, an extra £10mm isn't going to kill our transfer plans either way... For the most part, we've proved in the past couple of years we aren't going to over pay or get in bidding wars and are willing to walk away (in the post KK, post FSG learning curve era)... I have a feeling this will get done one way or another..
I'd be curious to what Sanchez would demand, I see him as a much more realistic target and "puzzle piece" to our attack.. I know we need defense and have faith that will be addressed. It sounds like Moreno is close to being done, which is exciting...
It is obvious Lallana is BRs main target this summer and I'm very interest to see how this ends up... Are we willing to walk away or is he gonna end up doing whatever it takes to get his man... Like you, I think £30mm is wayyyy to much, but in the grand scheme of things, an extra £10mm isn't going to kill our transfer plans either way... For the most part, we've proved in the past couple of years we aren't going to over pay or get in bidding wars and are willing to walk away (in the post KK, post FSG learning curve era)... I have a feeling this will get done one way or another..
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:40 pm to TFTC
Sorry but I'm already astounded we're considering 25. I know in the grand scheme it won't kill our plans but its just too much money. He's a good player, but its just not worth 30m in any way, shape, or form, whatsoever. He's not even the most crucial area for us. In fact, perhaps least crucial.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 8:48 pm to BleedPurpleGold
I understand where they're coming from. They just lost their manager and in the process of getting absolutely raided for their talent, and the last person they want to lose is their captain who's been with them for the past 8 years.
I don't think they're hurting too bad financially especially with the nice financial boost of being in the PL the past couple of years, but I just can't believe they've been fighting this so hard. They say he's got other teams interested but no way anyone offers more money than us
I don't think they're hurting too bad financially especially with the nice financial boost of being in the PL the past couple of years, but I just can't believe they've been fighting this so hard. They say he's got other teams interested but no way anyone offers more money than us
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