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re: Need Help Building a PC - Gaming Edition
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:10 am to wadewilson
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:10 am to wadewilson
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but with that kind of budget, you can buy a NICE gaming machine already built. Maybe it's more fun to build your own, but I like the idea of a warranty if anything is wrong right off the bat.
While this is true there are other things to consider.
1. Its fun to build
2. you can a good knowledge of how it works making it easier to fix yourself later if needed
3. the components will have warranty
4. you can get a better value plus do a better job putting it together than trusting someone else to.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:18 am to Mr Gardoki
in cases where a person is unable or unwilling to put it together themselves, they are much better off just finding someone they know to put it together for them. even if its for a flat fee, its a better value than the markup % companies like alienware and ibuypower have.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 12:21 pm to jcole4lsu
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under no circumstances are you to take the above advice. ever.
I'm very happy with my computer.
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While this is true there are other things to consider.
1. Its fun to build
2. you can a good knowledge of how it works making it easier to fix yourself later if needed
3. the components will have warranty
4. you can get a better value plus do a better job putting it together than trusting someone else to.
Yeah, I got my machine for a very good price. $900. With all I had in it, I probably could have built it for around $600, but I was a little nervous about that. Next time, I think I'll be building my own computer, or HTPC.
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in cases where a person is unable or unwilling to put it together themselves, they are much better off just finding someone they know to put it together for them. even if its for a flat fee, its a better value than the markup % companies like alienware and ibuypower have.
I would hope avoiding alienware and ibuypower would be a no-brainer.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:22 pm to wadewilson
I can't stress reason #1 enough, it's like a drug
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:41 pm to Mr Gardoki
I will be building more for reason #2. I always do things myself (repair car, woodwork, etc.) mainly because I like to know how it works so I can fix it in the future if I need to.
I think I almost have it nailed down to what I am looking at getting. I will post here when I decide for sure for any last minute critiques or suggestionas you guys may have.
I think I almost have it nailed down to what I am looking at getting. I will post here when I decide for sure for any last minute critiques or suggestionas you guys may have.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 6/20/13 at 1:54 pm to Mr Gardoki
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3. the components will have warranty
Another thing to add here is that most prebuilts have a standard 1-year warranty and charge extra for longer warranties. Whereas individual components will carry a minimum of 1 year, and the most important stuff like CPUs, motherboards, PSUs, and GPUs will have upwards of a 5-year warranty or more (some companies even offer limited lifetime warranties on certain parts).
Even better is you just RMA the part and not the whole computer. My brother stupidly bought a prebuilt ASUS desktop a few years ago. The HDD failed. He asked me if I could fix it (of course I can't fix a dead hard drive, although I did try a few methods to at least recover the data).
It was a Seagate Barracuda, so I thought I could RMA it with Seagate easily. Nope, after giving them the serial number, I was told I had to RMA it through ASUS. And ASUS wanted us to send the whole machine back for service. My brother would've had to pay for the shipping to get it there. Instead of spending $40+ to ship it and wait 3 weeks, he spent $50 on a new drive, overnighted with Amazon prime.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 6/20/13 at 2:17 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I really would like a Steam Box type of computer next. Sooooo........depending on what Steam does, and how much their machine will cost, I may look into building one in the future.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 2:46 pm to wadewilson
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I'm very happy with my computer.
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Yeah, I got my machine for a very good price. $900. With all I had in it, I probably could have built it for around $600,
33% markup is a "good" price to you?
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 2:49 pm to jcole4lsu
Yeah that's terrible. When I was doing builds as a side business, I might charge $100 for a basic build, from choosing the parts to loading and optimizing Windows, plus a stress test to make sure everything was good. For more involved builds with high-end parts, custom loops, overclocking, case mods, etc. the price went up but was still pretty damned reasonable for the time I was putting in.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 2:50 pm to jcole4lsu
I pulled that number out of my arse, I never priced out all the exact components together.
I was not comfortable building a computer myself. I imagine most people aren't.
I was not comfortable building a computer myself. I imagine most people aren't.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:35 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I have been doing some research on some parts and I want to know what is the difference between the brands Radeon HD 7970s? Do they have the same output of graphics just made by different companies?
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:40 pm to TexasTiger39
overclockability
Drivers/Software Utilities to optimize performance
Customer service/RMA procedures
Failure rate
Available custom cooling solutions
Color of particle board
Same 'chipset', an AMD radeon chipset.. different manufactures. MSI or Sapphire for instance
Generally, they all performance similarly, though.
Drivers/Software Utilities to optimize performance
Customer service/RMA procedures
Failure rate
Available custom cooling solutions
Color of particle board
Same 'chipset', an AMD radeon chipset.. different manufactures. MSI or Sapphire for instance
Generally, they all performance similarly, though.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:44 pm to jefforize
I assume the more expensive ones are "better."
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:47 pm to TexasTiger39
safe to assume that, yes
7970s are way out of my league so im certainly no expert but others will come along and comment on specific Manufacturers shortly im certain.
7970s are way out of my league so im certainly no expert but others will come along and comment on specific Manufacturers shortly im certain.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:58 pm to jefforize
haha I hope so. A poster on the first page told me the PowerColor, but when I peruse builds on PCpartpicker most are going with Saphire or Gigabyte so I just want to know if I should cut corners somewhere else in order to get one of those brands.
To me, the most important parts are the processor, mobo, and graphics card.
To me, the most important parts are the processor, mobo, and graphics card.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:01 pm to TexasTiger39
I recommended the 7950 if that's what your referring to.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:26 pm to Mr Gardoki
Yea I know I just didn't know that brand versus the other ones, or if I shouldn't worry about that.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:30 pm to TexasTiger39
Sometimes yes but from what I have seen powercolor is a decent brand.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 7:36 pm to Mr Gardoki
quick question. two 7950's, think it will run bf4 at 1440p all settings maxed?
remember. I really don't know much about PC gaming these days. cut me some slack.
remember. I really don't know much about PC gaming these days. cut me some slack.
Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:56 pm to WestlakeTiger
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quick question. two 7950's, think it will run bf4 at 1440p all settings maxed?
I'm going to assume that by "run BF4" you mean run it at a consistent 60fps (I never accept any less). It's possible, with AA off (so, not technically maxed out). Even still I'm not sure. BF3 required some high-end cards of its time for flawless 1440p performance.
But, the good news is: Antialiasing is unnecessary and unnoticeable at 1440p, so you can turn it off on pretty much every game.
How detailed you can set BF4 will depend on how well or shittily the game is optimized for the hardware at launch, and of course AMD/Nvidia's drivers.
Also, on brands: Only because I'm a watercooler, I hate any brand that locks the voltage. I have no use for them. I also have no use for any brands with proprietary PCBs. It's why I have stubborn fanboy-ish loyalty to MSI for AMD cards. They are generally excellent overclockers with reference PCBs (for full-cover waterblocks), unlocked voltage, and dual bios.
If voltage control, bios flashing, and full-cover blocks are not a concern for you (or heavy overclocking in general), then you're probably safe buying the one that's on sale. With a few exceptions, all the brands have an equally terrible RMA process.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 9:05 pm
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