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re: Sources: ESPN laying off hundreds
Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well our poor today are clearly better than the poor of the past. which country's poor are better than our poor? there probably are examples of people at the end of the economic spectrum being better off, but i don't know if those dregs are comparable to our dregs
but it is clear that now is the best time to be poor in an advanced country in the history of the world
that really depends on your definition of being "better off" means as well as an in depth study into thousands of societies for comparisons sake.
You can't just simply say something so all encompassing like that without actual facts and analysis.
as for this
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actually it has everything to do with it
if our poor are bettering their lives at a faster rate than any other poor, then who cares what advances the rich make?
IMO if the advances of the rich are at the expense of a strong middle class then it is not to the benefit of our society as a whole.
when Fat Cat Co kills a factory in the US so they can move to Bumblefrickistan b/c they don't have to worry about safety of the employees and can pay jack shite even though they are already making a healthy profit with their factory here its bad for our country.
I'd rather pay $1 more for the widget Fat Cat makes in the US if it means less adults are going to end up in shite arse jobs like Wal Mart where they will purposely keep your hours low to avoid paying insurance and encourage you to get on welfare.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:36 pm to Dr RC
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that really depends on your definition of being "better off" means
i mean we can start with simple things like birth rate, average life epectancy, etc
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You can't just simply say something so all encompassing like that without actual facts and analysis.
i really can't think of a measure that would make our poor better off than in the past
they're fat, they live longer, their babies survive more often, they have access to public education, they have access to public medical care, they have access to the same luxury goods that the rich have, etc
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IMO if the advances of the rich are at the expense of a strong middle class then it is not to the benefit of our society as a whole.
can you define what the "middle class" is, and what a "Strong" middle class is?
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I'd rather pay $1 more for the widget Fat Cat makes in the US
you would. the vast majority of people (especially the poor) wouldn't
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if it means less adults are going to end up in shite arse jobs like Wal Mart
wal-mart isn't that bad of a job...especially an entry level job
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where they will purposely keep your hours low to avoid paying insurance and encourage you to get on welfare.
sounds like government should stop providing welfare or creating the incentive to link insurance to employment
Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:43 pm to Dr RC
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IMO if the advances of the rich are at the expense of a strong middle class then it is not to the benefit of our society as a whole.
Every class we have lives better than it has in the past.
Problem is, some will never be happy until they are all equal, which is a subjective thing.
ESPN lays off people, and some get all pissed off. Maybe, just maybe...those positions are no longer necessary.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:19 pm to Dr RC
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when Fat Cat Co kills a factory in the US so they can move to Bumblefrickistan b/c they don't have to worry about safety of the employees and can pay jack shite even though they are already making a healthy profit with their factory here its bad for our country
Blame Unions for that, not companies. Look at what they did to Hostess.
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