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re: Speedy Noil top 3 in this mornings advocate-USC tamu UF

Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 1:08 pm to
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just look at the NFL draft and see, guys come from all kinds of colleges major BCS teams and 1AA. From good teams and bad. I really don't see how you can say that a guy has less of a shot at any SEC school over another. It's not a random draw so using the # of players in the NFL fro each school is not relevant.



Just because a guy makes it from a small DII type of school doesnt mean he had the same "chance" of making the NFL as if he went to an SEC school. Coaching staffs, level of competition, exposure...all play big roles in things such as player development and NFL scouts taking notice.


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A&M has 30 players in the NFL, that's a pretty good number, especially considering how bad they have been lately. That LSU has more is great for fans bragging, but has no impact on any individual player from those schools getting to the pros, it just means that LSU has had more talent recently.



Never said they dont have anyone in the NFL, but they are not considered one of the current NFL factories.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/2/13 at 2:23 pm to
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Just because a guy makes it from a small DII type of school doesnt mean he had the same "chance" of making the NFL as if he went to an SEC school. Coaching staffs, level of competition, exposure...all play big roles in things such as player development and NFL scouts taking notice.


Obviously all of that matters. The question is what is more important, natural talent or coaching and developement? I think talent is far and away the #1 factor. I think top coaches like Les Miles and Nick Saban do as well. Now the big schools are the ones that get the best talent, in part for the reasons you listed above. So they go together, but the top programs like LSU recruit the best talent, because the coaches know they need the best players to win. An old quote goes X's and O's don't matter if my X's are better than your O's.

Guys that go high from smaller programs like Fisher usually are guys that fall thru the cracks or become late bloomers, something like that. But it does show that talent comes thru, even at lesser or losing programs.

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but they are not considered one of the current NFL factories.


What does that matter? They can point to several guys in the NFL. So they don't have the most, it's not a contest. LSU wasn't a "factory" when our current run started, but we still sent guys to the league. Here I guess is the crux of our disagreement. I'd argue we have more guys in the NFL now than 10 years ago, because we've been recruiting better talent and having better coaching is why we've been able to attract better talent, if that makes sense.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 2:26 pm
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