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re: Monty has to go!

Posted on 3/17/13 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 3/17/13 at 10:14 pm to
In retrospect, lots of online coaching experts look like idiots for criticizing guys' abilities when they're coaching bad teams.

Think Orlando kind of regrets that Doc Rivers decision?
Shocker that he couldn't turn a team starting Tyronn Lue, Juwon Howard, and Andrew Declerq into champs.

Internet hero, Bill Simmons cried for years to get Rivers fired in Boston, to the point that Ainge almost did it.
For some reason Doc couldn't turn a team starting Ricky Davis and Raef Lafrentz into winners.

They bring in actual talent and Rivers was able show his true abilities. Amazing what KG and Ray Allen can do for you. Now he's universally accepted as one of the 2 or 3 best coaches in the league.

Monty had one good team and we got to the playoffs. When the Pelicans actually have a roster good enough to win, guys like Lance Thomas and Xavier Henry will be distant memories. When Monty's losing games with GOOD teams, then get back to me with the fire him stuff.

Until then, the nonsense and hyperbole people are spewing about what they think they know about Monty as a coach is just ignorant noise.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

n retrospect, lots of online coaching experts look like idiots for criticizing guys' abilities when they're coaching bad teams.

Think Orlando kind of regrets that Doc Rivers decision?
Shocker that he couldn't turn a team starting Tyronn Lue, Juwon Howard, and Andrew Declerq into champs.

Internet hero, Bill Simmons cried for years to get Rivers fired in Boston, to the point that Ainge almost did it.
For some reason Doc couldn't turn a team starting Ricky Davis and Raef Lafrentz into winners.

They bring in actual talent and Rivers was able show his true abilities. Amazing what KG and Ray Allen can do for you. Now he's universally accepted as one of the 2 or 3 best coaches in the league.

Monty had one good team and we got to the playoffs. When the Pelicans actually have a roster good enough to win, guys like Lance Thomas and Xavier Henry will be distant memories. When Monty's losing games with GOOD teams, then get back to me with the fire him stuff.

Until then, the nonsense and hyperbole people are spewing about what they think they know about Monty as a coach is just ignorant noise.



Eyeran wins
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72113 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 6:20 pm to
I understand the point you are trying to make. But Doc Rivers had a bunch 1st round exits with those good Mcgrady led teams in Orlando. He's really isn't regarded as a top coach. He's the definition of underachiever. He will ride the coatails of his championship team and the subsequent talented teams that Ainge put in front of him.

People's problems w Monty doesn't lie in sheer wins and losses. It's how his teams crumble during games they should win. Regardless of who's fault it is, the coach gets the blame. See the Nets with Avery Johnson. Dude won 60 games a year in Dallas and was thought to be a good coach
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Think Orlando kind of regrets that Doc Rivers decision?


Why would they regret that decision? They went through a few coaches before hiring Stan Van Gundy, who helped take them to the finals.

quote:


They bring in actual talent and Rivers was able show his true abilities.


His abilities or Thibodeau's abilities?
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