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re: With Tiger's win today, that gives him 7 wins in his last 22 PGA Tourneys
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:07 am to tigerpimpbot
Posted on 3/11/13 at 1:07 am to tigerpimpbot
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There are way more quality golfers on the tour now then were in the 50s - 90s, and it's not even close.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:16 am to Navytiger74
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There are way more quality golfers on the tour now then were in the 50s - 90s, and it's not even close.
I would disagree. I would say it's the other way around. Equipment is the crutch for the modern player. It would be like comparing a soldier today to a soldier of Troy
Posted on 3/11/13 at 5:52 am to LSU alum wannabe
Tied for majors but tiger has more wins and better winning percentage at 37 than jack did. Also has more money titles. Pretty clear cut who was better at 37 and any age prior.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 8:02 am to unbeWEAVEable
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I would disagree. I would say it's the other way around. Equipment is the crutch for the modern player.
I would bet that most modern players also train more, compete more, study the game more, work on individual facets of their play more, and condition their bodies better. It's easy to get into this argument in any GOAT debate. The fact remains that today's athletes are better than ever before--in every sport. Technology doesn't really detract from that. Michael Phelps could out swim Johnny Weisman in a sweatsuit.
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It would be like comparing a soldier today to a soldier of Troy
Have to disagree.
ETA: My phone ac'd Weissmüller (umlauts and all) to Weismann. Y'all know what I meant.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 11:09 am
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:21 am to unbeWEAVEable
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I would disagree. I would say it's the other way around. Equipment is the crutch for the modern player. It would be like comparing a soldier today to a soldier of Troy
How many players in the field today are putting their cigarettes on the ground between each swing? If you don't recognize the level of conditioning and athleticism in the sport today you are delusional.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:26 am to ItNeverRains
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If you don't recognize the level of conditioning and athleticism in the sport today you are delusional.
I never said that...I would agree with the fact that players today are conditioned better and train better...but player in the past relied on pure skill...players today have crutches (or more crutches) to fall back on
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:28 am to unbeWEAVEable
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.players today have crutches (or more crutches) to fall back on
I wouldn't call it a crutch, but there are players at every level, from pro to club level, that couldn't play without new equipment.
Ping equipment made the game accessible for everyone.
But, it goes both ways, because courses changed in concurrence with equipment advances
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 9:30 am
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:30 am to ItNeverRains
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How many players in the field today are putting their cigarettes on the ground between each swing?
Actually more than you think. It's not shown on TV because it's seen as negative, but it happens WAY more than is shown.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:43 am to unbeWEAVEable
the equipment allows inferior players to win pga events. you literally have hundreds of players that could win on the pga tour now. that is why johnny miller said in 1996 that tiger would win 50 events and 10 majors and would be equivalent to what jack did.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 9:44 am to unbeWEAVEable
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players today are conditioned better and train better
By "train" I actually meant practice their game more than train their bodies--though repetition and muscle memory are helpful in precision sports like golf. And that creates "pure skill".
All of that aside, Tiger Woods was a golf prodigy. It's pretty well documented. He may have more "pure" skill than anyone on record. He learned to play from his old man (an Army officer, not a great golf coach) at public courses in SoCal.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 10:51 am to SPEEDY
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Are there still people on this board saying he will never win another major?
Not only will I say it, I think its pretty much a guarantee..
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:01 am to Navytiger74
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Tiger Woods was a golf prodigy.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:05 am to unbeWEAVEable
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Tiger Woods was a golf prodigy.
Well one can't very well be a prodigy for life can he?
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:12 am to Navytiger74
Sure they can...until the next prodigy comes along...
The only thing different in this case is that there hasn't been another one. He ended it on his own.
The only thing different in this case is that there hasn't been another one. He ended it on his own.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 11:25 am to unbeWEAVEable
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Sure they can...until the next prodigy comes along...
Prodigy, when referring to a person, typically refers to a child or someone else who's "coming along". Not trying to be too pedantic here. Tiger was a child prodigy who became the GOAT before he was 30.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:15 pm to TigerBait2008
shocked you would say that.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:20 pm to lsugolf1105
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the equipment allows inferior players to win pga events. you literally have hundreds of players that could win on the pga tour now. that is why johnny miller said in 1996 that tiger would win 50 events and 10 majors and would be equivalent to what jack did.
You do realize the equipment Jack and co used was cutting edge for their time.too, right? Your argument is bullshite.
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:38 pm to LNCHBOX
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You do realize the equipment Jack and co used was cutting edge for their time.too, right? Your argument is bullshite.
If you handed Jack, Arnold, Ben Snead, Hogan, and all of those guys the equipment that today's elites use, they might occassionally crack the top 15.
That's humbling for older guys. Believe me. I turned 30 less than 2 months ago and my father's pushing 70. They hang on to old athletes and old actors and past times like mother's milk. Nothing to resent really. Just the way it is.
This post was edited on 3/11/13 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 3/11/13 at 12:46 pm to LNCHBOX
Yea...the quality of a black and white television is just as comparable to a flat screen HDTV...
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