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re: The Oscars 2080: Calculating the Cultural Consciousness

Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:01 pm to
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I think if it was based on numerous factors, most of which must not require the participation of the subjects, you could gauge it, though I don't think you could ever be absolutely precise.


Agreed.

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If the mechanism required participation (e.g. The People's Choice Awards), you'd get another popularity contest between the self-chosen or simply, the kind of people who would take time out of their day to help determine the cultural significance of films. Maybe those are "educated" groups, but they don't ever represent the whole.


But if the goal is partially to measure cultural consciousness, then they would be appropriate.

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One thing's for sure. Film critics should be removed from the equation entirely. They're really nothing more than propaganda and academic masturbation.



Their impact, like that of BCS computers, should be minor. They do have a job to rate films, and I think Metacritic as an aggregated work, is a very good judge of popular tastes.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 4:29 pm to
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But if the goal is partially to measure cultural consciousness, then they would be appropriate.

Sure, they'd be an addition to the whole equation, but no more or less than anyone else. Yes, the "intelligentsia" are often integral in raising awareness of certain films, but they are also very often just an echo chamber. Just because a film is artistically well crafted doesn't make it a good movie, much less "culturally significant." The latter has very little to do with film experts, regardless of how well-respected.
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They do have a job to rate films, and I think Metacritic as an aggregated work, is a very good judge of popular tastes.
The critics so often get it wrong, I think they'd do more harm than good. The RT fan and critic meters are often at severe odds with each other, and the fans seem to get it right more often than the critics. The Hobbit, for example.
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