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re: bapple Video Request: Optics
Posted on 2/21/13 at 7:59 pm to LouisianaChessie
Posted on 2/21/13 at 7:59 pm to LouisianaChessie
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He was saying that there were times that the entire class would have targets 7-800 yards away and about the size of a quarter. That is truly incredible with an ar platform
And my friend, not that Im doubting what he told you, but it would be an embellishment of shooter and equipment capabilities.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:00 pm to 03GeeTee
I watched a few videos on YouTube of the 516. Thoughts?
Do you have a magnifier on yours?
Do you have a magnifier on yours?
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:16 pm to Ziggy
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Honestly, I would like the best of both worlds. However, "long range" isn't clear cut in my eyes. What is considered long range? 100 yards? 150 yards? 200 yards?
For example: I know ACOG's are good for close acquisition/close quarters, but would they also be good for up to 50 yards? Up to 100 yards?
Those are the kinds of things I don't have a clue about.
This is my opinion only.
Long range for me is 800-1200 yards.
Id consider an AR a mid range gun with a max of 600 yards. Im not taking into account a 24" barrel single loaded with 90 grain moly coated thing-a-ma-jig bullets. Im talking 16-18" barrels shooting a match 75gr load.
As far as optics, I wouldnt consider the ACOG to be a good CQB type optic. The 4x magnification is to much for quick acquisition for sub 150 yards. They are very nice and a good all around optic for military use(25-600 yards). There are better options for sub 100 yard shooting.
Non magnified optics like Aimpoint/Eotechs/Vortex Sparc...etc...etc. Very good out to about 100 yards or wherever you zero. Not so good out to 600 unless you use a magnifier which makes it heavy. Differences between Aimpoint/Eotech equate to field of view through the optic and battery life. Both are very robust sights, both have their own backers.
I choose eotech for the field of view and if I had my way itd be an Eotech XPS3.
However, there are a new breed of scopes coming out that are very very very impressive. US Optics and Vortex just released some variable scopes like the 1-6x Razor and 1-8x USO. These are true 1x when set at 1x and give the capability to actually spot a target at 600 yards. There are cheaper options in the 1-4x range and those would suit 99% of the hobby shooters.
Of all options, Id choose the 1-6x Vortex Razor, its not any heavier than an EOtech with magnifier. It offers a true 1x for close up, yet has the magnification to shoot mid range distances.
Other more exoctic options like the Elcans are cool and all, but they just dont tickle my fancy very much.
If I were to buy an optic today for my 14.5" AR, it would be the Vortex razor 1-6x or something like it.
If you are around Hammond, go stop by SportOptics and talk to Chris or Jay. They will get you setup and let you fondle anything they have in stock.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:19 pm to Ziggy
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516
Go with the new XPS models, they fixed the only things wrong with the originals which was having the batteries parallel to the bore of the rifle. It put a strain on the springs holding the batteries tight. Granted I never had a problem with the couple I owned, but they are like the same price.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:24 pm to kengel2
Awesome info dude. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:25 pm to kengel2
What new XPS model is equal to the 516? Thanks for the heads up.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:27 pm to kengel2
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SportOptics
Just googled/google mapped this. Holy shite - no idea this place existed and it's 5 minutes from my house.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:29 pm to kengel2
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1-6x Razor
DO WANT...but $1400...
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:31 pm to Ziggy
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What new XPS model is equal to the 516?
XPS2, same price.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:34 pm to kengel2
Gotcha.
What's the difference between the XPS2 and XPS3?
I'm checking out SportOptics' site now.
What's the difference between the XPS2 and XPS3?
I'm checking out SportOptics' site now.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:38 pm to Ziggy
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What's the difference between the XPS2 and XPS3?
XPS3 is Night Vision capable. The XPS2 wont dim enough for use with a night vision device, itll burn an image into your intensifier tube.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:42 pm to Ziggy
The main difference is the XPS3 is the nightvision compatible version.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:43 pm to 03GeeTee
I appreciate all the info fellas.
It appears there's a XPS3 and a XPS3-0 (lever mount). Is one better or?
It appears there's a XPS3 and a XPS3-0 (lever mount). Is one better or?
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:48 pm to Ziggy
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It appears there's a XPS3 and a XPS3-0 (lever mount). Is one better or?
Id get the lever mount. Its just easier, Especially if they are the same price.
Posted on 2/21/13 at 8:54 pm to kengel2
Sweet. Appreciate the help.
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