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re: Why isn't AI more appreciated?

Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:53 pm to
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Because he played with arguable the worst set of teammate of any superstar in NBA history


If AI's teammates were so bad, why didn't his teams get significantly worse after he left? The Sixers went from a 38 win team with Iverson to a 35 win team when he left and then had a 40 win season the following year after that. The Nuggets went from being swept in the first round and winning one playoff game in two years with Iverson to playing in the Western Conference Finals after they traded him for Billups. The Pistons also had a 20 game dropoff from the previous year after AI joined their team. If AI was such a great player, those teams would have gotten better when he joined them and dropped off significantly after he left. That wasn't the case.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73253 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:55 pm to
same people who love AI so much as the same people who love Tracy McGrady and Melo and the like.

High volume, prolific scorers who aren't efficient and don't necessarily make their teams better.

not my cup of tea personally
Posted by tigerbait4444
Member since Nov 2010
317 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:57 pm to
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Bench McElroy


Couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:19 pm to
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The Sixers went from a 38 win team with Iverson to a 35 win team when he left and then had a 40 win season the following year after that.

And the year before his last year, they won 43 games. So in his last 2 years, they won 81 games, and when he left, they won 75 in the next two. Wow. What improvement. Yeah, the Nuggets got better when he left, mainly because AI was essentially done at 33 because of all of his injuries. There are legit knocks on Iverson (his shooting percentage first among them), but the idea teams got remarkably better when he left is not one of them. After he left Detroit, where he played a whopping 50 games anyway, the team went from 39 wins to 27 wins. I'm just saying, the Pistons decline had to do with more than just AI.

Iverson was a selfish, ballhog player. But he also was incredibly intense and played harder than just about anyone, and sacrificed his body to the game (some would say recklessly). As for his "practice" speech, he was right. He was getting criticized because he was injured and he didn't miss a game, but he missed a practice. He's right. So f'n what?
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