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re: Tevin Lawson to accept greyshirt?
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:15 am to tmc94
Posted on 2/21/13 at 12:15 am to tmc94
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It also added another addendum about EEs (which is the primary way around the rule for non-SEC schools as EEs don't count at all towards the 25).
The addendum states they do not count in the signee limit as long as they count back to the previous initial counter limit. Example: If a January 2013 early enrollee does not count back, then they count toward the 2013 signee limit. If they count back to the 2012 initial counter limit, then they do not count against the 2013 signee limit.
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However it doesn't change the basic premise which is true that the SEC rule does not allow you to get that spot back for non-qualifiers and you do in other conferences.
They all have the same signee limit of 25 now so the risk is the same. If he doesn't qualify at TCU it simply goes down as a wasted spot as one of their possible 25 signees in 2013, the same as it would at LSU, Oregon, Boise, Duke, or anyone else in Division I.
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Posted on 2/21/13 at 1:19 am to MOT
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They all have the same signee limit of 25 now so the risk is the same. If he doesn't qualify at TCU it simply goes down as a wasted spot as one of their possible 25 signees in 2013, the same as it would at LSU, Oregon, Boise, Duke, or anyone else in Division I.
no it's still not. The SEC is only allowed 25 LOIs period. Other conferences can take EEs to get to the initial counter number. It's maybe not obvious what that difference is but there is a difference.
To use this specific case, if LSU signs Lawson and he does not qualify, you cannot fill with an EE because SEC schools are counting LOIs and he signed one so he counts. TCU can because they are only counting towards initial counters and a kid that doesn't qualify is never an initial counter, regardless of number of LOIs. Hopefully that makes sense.
This post was edited on 2/21/13 at 1:21 am
Posted on 2/21/13 at 7:10 am to MOT
MOT, the SEC is implementing the rule as it chooses, not as written. For example, say a non qualifier signed a LOI in the 2012 class. Given the written rule and assuming there was space under the 85, an EE in jan 13 could fill the nonqualifier's initial counter spot. But it is pretty clear now that the SEC does not allow this. In the SEC an EE can only count back if he fits under the LOI limit (and the 85).
So for new enrollees (I have no idea how they would handle a walkon getting a ship after his freshman year), there isn't much distinction between an LOI and an initial counter in the SEC. Other conferences, if they go by how the rule is written, have an advantage when dealing with academic risks.
We screwed up when we signed Peterson and Fehoka (sp) instead of offering them grey shirts. Signing them cost us 2 spots that could have been used this year or the next.
So for new enrollees (I have no idea how they would handle a walkon getting a ship after his freshman year), there isn't much distinction between an LOI and an initial counter in the SEC. Other conferences, if they go by how the rule is written, have an advantage when dealing with academic risks.
We screwed up when we signed Peterson and Fehoka (sp) instead of offering them grey shirts. Signing them cost us 2 spots that could have been used this year or the next.
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