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re: 1140 Yards, 11 Touchdowns, 0 Interceptions, beat Manning AND Brady on the road
Posted on 2/4/13 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/4/13 at 8:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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the ravens just got into the playoffs again without a top QB
and they got hot and won a super bowl
the ravens prove you don't need a top QB to win a title
joe flacco had 2 of the worst games in NFL history this year
Flacco is a top QB. He's consistently won playoff games against top competition on the road. He's the biggest reason why they beat the Broncos and 49ers. The Ravens gave up 35 and 29 points in those games. They don't beat those teams with an Alex Smith-type QB at the helm.
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that team won a super bowl with trent dilfer and then upgraded teh QB position and didn't win another one
False. The Ravens won a Super Bowl in 2000 with the greatest defense of the last 25 years. They got Pro Bowl QB Elvis Grbac the following season BUT Jamal Lewis got hurt and the Ravens were forced to rely on the likes of 33-year-old Terry Allen and Jason Brookins to carry their running game. With zero concerns about the Ravens rushing attack, the opponents were able to key on stopping Grbac and the Ravens passing game and the team faltered. Grbac left after that one season and the Ravens made a mess of the QB position by starting the likes of Chris Redman, Jeff Blake, Kyle Boller, Anthony Wright, an OLD Steve McNair over the next six seasons. The Ravens didn't win a single playoff game from 2001-2007 despite the fact that their defense was significantly better and more talented than the Flacco-era Ravens. That just shows how much impact Flacco has made on the team.
Posted on 2/4/13 at 8:57 am to Bench McElroy
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Flacco is a top QB.
by what objective, individual measure?
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He's consistently won playoff games
teams win playoff games
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They don't beat those teams with an Alex Smith-type QB at the helm.
alex smith is a more highly rated passer than flacco the past couple years
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. They got Pro Bowl QB Elvis Grbac the following season BUT Jamal Lewis got hurt and the Ravens were forced to rely on the likes of 33-year-old Terry Allen and Jason Brookins to carry their running game. With zero concerns about the Ravens rushing attack, the opponents were able to key on stopping Grbac and the Ravens passing game and the team faltered. Grbac left after that one season and the Ravens made a mess of the QB position by starting the likes of Chris Redman, Jeff Blake, Kyle Boller, Anthony Wright, an OLD Steve McNair over the next six seasons.
grbac and mcnair > dilfer
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The Ravens didn't win a single playoff game from 2001-2007 despite the fact that their defense was significantly better and more talented than the Flacco-era Ravens. That just shows how much impact Flacco has made on the team.
there are quite a bit of differences in both the NFL and the ravens than just flacco
if the refs don't give the ravens 3 slanted judgment calls on the final 2 drives and the ravens lose, does this change flacco's rating? if the 49ers don't call shitty plays on the goaline and they win, does this change flacco's rating? if boldin doesn't make about 4 amazing catches last night, does that change flacco's rating?
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