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LSU 58, Georgia 67 - Recap
Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:18 am
Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:18 am
LSU (9-6,0-4) continues their losing streak versus Georgia (7-10,1-3) losing 67-58 to become the only remaining winless SEC team. The Tigers continued to fight throughout the game, but were unable to come up with a victory, once again, due to their inability to protect the ball. The Tigers had only 6 assists (season low) and 21 turnovers. The Tigers had to play without senior starter Charles Carmouche who was suffering from knee tendinitis, an injury that has plagued him his entire career.
On a positive note, Johnny O'Bryant played his most physical game of the season and grabbed a career high 14 rebounds. He was able to score in the post, even when triple teamed and ended the contest with his fourth double double of the season after scoring 16. His 16 points came on 5 of 8 shooting from the field and 6 of 8 from the line. He also had two of LSU's 6 assists.
He did have his problems though. He had 5 turnovers, most on traveling violations, which plagued LSU all night. Everyone who played, besides Jalen Courtney (6 minutes) recorded at least 1 turnover and six different players had at least two. The 21 team turnovers gives LSU an average of 21.5 in the last two games after averaging only 10 per game in their first two SEC contests.
Malik Morgan had his best game in the purple and gold recording 11 points on 3 of 5 shooting, 4 rebounds, 3 steals, and only 1 turnover in 30 minutes of action. He was able to hit a three pointer and was very successful around the hoop. On one occasion he made a backdoor cut and was hit perfectly in stride by Johnny O'Bryant and finished with a very pretty reverse layup.
Near the end of the game, Corban Collins dove head first for the ball and was carried off the court by players after hitting his nose on an opponents knee. His status is unknown, but it looks like he at least broke his nose. Collins ended the game with another negative SoS rating, after having 4 turnovers and 3 points.
Anthony Hickey had 5 steals which vaulted him back into the NCAA lead averaging 3.54 steals per game. Second place Briante Weber of VCU is averaging 3.37 per game. Hickey also added 12 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 assists. Late in the second half, Hickey hit two straight three pointers to put LSU back in the game. He played 37 minutes and continues to be LSU's most consistent player. He has scored double figures in his last 7 contests.
LSU has played in 3 winnable games and has yet to come up with a victory. There are still some possible wins out there, but LSU MUST put together a complete game. LSU must rebound, shoot well, and take care of the ball in order to win. In this game, they won rebounding by 9, shot 36%, and had 21 turnovers. While winning rebounding was very good, the 21 turnovers really hurt the Tigers. LSU was able to make 67% of their 24 free throws, but struggled to finish inside the three point line. They shot nearly the same percentage from three point range as two point range.
On a positive note, Johnny O'Bryant played his most physical game of the season and grabbed a career high 14 rebounds. He was able to score in the post, even when triple teamed and ended the contest with his fourth double double of the season after scoring 16. His 16 points came on 5 of 8 shooting from the field and 6 of 8 from the line. He also had two of LSU's 6 assists.
He did have his problems though. He had 5 turnovers, most on traveling violations, which plagued LSU all night. Everyone who played, besides Jalen Courtney (6 minutes) recorded at least 1 turnover and six different players had at least two. The 21 team turnovers gives LSU an average of 21.5 in the last two games after averaging only 10 per game in their first two SEC contests.
Malik Morgan had his best game in the purple and gold recording 11 points on 3 of 5 shooting, 4 rebounds, 3 steals, and only 1 turnover in 30 minutes of action. He was able to hit a three pointer and was very successful around the hoop. On one occasion he made a backdoor cut and was hit perfectly in stride by Johnny O'Bryant and finished with a very pretty reverse layup.
Near the end of the game, Corban Collins dove head first for the ball and was carried off the court by players after hitting his nose on an opponents knee. His status is unknown, but it looks like he at least broke his nose. Collins ended the game with another negative SoS rating, after having 4 turnovers and 3 points.
Anthony Hickey had 5 steals which vaulted him back into the NCAA lead averaging 3.54 steals per game. Second place Briante Weber of VCU is averaging 3.37 per game. Hickey also added 12 points, 6 rebounds, and 2 assists. Late in the second half, Hickey hit two straight three pointers to put LSU back in the game. He played 37 minutes and continues to be LSU's most consistent player. He has scored double figures in his last 7 contests.
LSU has played in 3 winnable games and has yet to come up with a victory. There are still some possible wins out there, but LSU MUST put together a complete game. LSU must rebound, shoot well, and take care of the ball in order to win. In this game, they won rebounding by 9, shot 36%, and had 21 turnovers. While winning rebounding was very good, the 21 turnovers really hurt the Tigers. LSU was able to make 67% of their 24 free throws, but struggled to finish inside the three point line. They shot nearly the same percentage from three point range as two point range.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:26 am to SouthOfSouth
Good write-up.
quote:I really hope this is a sign of things to come. Hopefully he can keep his game.
Malik Morgan had his best game in the purple and gold recording 11 points on 3 of 5 shooting, 4 rebounds, 3 steals, and only 1 turnover in 30 minutes of action. He was able to hit a three pointer and was very successful around the hoop. On one occasion he made a backdoor cut and was hit perfectly in stride by Johnny O'Bryant and finished with a very pretty reverse layup.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 7:41 am
Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:34 am to SouthOfSouth
we really need a big guy
Posted on 1/21/13 at 7:39 am to longhorn22
quote:
we really need a big guy
Johnny played much more physical than he has any other game this season, which is a good sign, but we definitely need some muscle around the rim. Hoping we get it next year. Odo looks like he could add some weight, but he looks athletic and is a big body.
Some of the high school guys should also help down low.
This game, the real issue was the turnovers. We will not win any SEC games with 20+ turnovers. The first two games we were doing great on turnovers, but we couldn't shoot. We just can't put it all together yet.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:20 am to longhorn22
quote:We have the big tuba. He will star in the NBA next year, so enjoy him while he is here.
we really need a big guy
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:43 am to 3xlsugrad
quote:Lets not get carried away here...
He will star in the NBA next year, so enjoy him while he is here.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:55 am to tgr4ever
quote:I guess my sarcasm was lost in translation.
Lets not get carried away here...
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:07 am to 3xlsugrad
quote:
I guess my sarcasm was lost in translation.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:16 am to SouthOfSouth
the excitement is overflowing, if this thread is any indication
Posted on 1/21/13 at 9:21 am to SouthOfSouth
quote:I am guessing since Georgia had a low scoring average that LSU figured that forcing the tempo would work. To me it looked like Georgia simply couldn't shoot and was very uncomfortable in the half court outside of a couple of shooters. Trying to go up-tempo just created a lot of turnovers against a taller team and gave them a lot of transition baskets.
This game, the real issue was the turnovers. We will not win any SEC games with 20+ turnovers. The first two games we were doing great on turnovers, but we couldn't shoot. We just can't put it all together yet.
We would have been better off slowing things down.
And laugh at ADP all you want. We were holding our own when he was in there. At least he is a threat to block the ball. He doesn't have to be our best player to be effective out on the floor.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:04 am to mmcgrath
quote:
I am guessing since Georgia had a low scoring average that LSU figured that forcing the tempo would work. To me it looked like Georgia simply couldn't shoot and was very uncomfortable in the half court outside of a couple of shooters. Trying to go up-tempo just created a lot of turnovers against a taller team and gave them a lot of transition baskets.
We would have been better off slowing things down.
I disagree. I think we struggled in our halfcourt set and we were able to really force a ton of turnovers in the full-court press. Most of our turnovers weren't even from poor passes in fast breaks, most were traveling violations. I have no clue how we had so many called on us, but we had a ton of those called. JOB's were all in half court setting and he had the most on the team.
I think the tempo was in LSU's favor, but LSU couldn't stop traveling.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:12 am to SouthOfSouth
LSU basketball seems very popular.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:14 am to CP3LSU25
You got the record wrong in the OP (LSUs needs to be flipped).
Still a good recap. Really need to upset somebody.
Still a good recap. Really need to upset somebody.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 11:18 am
Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:18 am to CP3LSU25
It will be. Hop on the bandwagon while there is still time.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:21 am to SouthOfSouth
I can't help but think how much more competent we would be if
-Pat Swilling Jr would've been enrolled
-Calvin Godfrey qualified
-Odoh qualified
-Hamilton stayed
-Trent didn't whiff on Ricardo Gathers AND Devonte Pollard
You change any of those events and we had the Jimmy's and Joe's to be decent this year.
-Pat Swilling Jr would've been enrolled
-Calvin Godfrey qualified
-Odoh qualified
-Hamilton stayed
-Trent didn't whiff on Ricardo Gathers AND Devonte Pollard
You change any of those events and we had the Jimmy's and Joe's to be decent this year.
This post was edited on 1/21/13 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:34 am to oauron
quote:
oauron
Thanks! Always glad when someone catches my mistakes. It's so frusterating when we do some really good things, but then totally screw up another part of our game.
6:21 ast:TO will completely ruin our chances at a positive ratio this year. Too bad cause we were right there.
Next year will be much better, but I am still looking for this team to accomplish more. They need to get that mentality back that they can win any game no matter how much they are down. I felt that after the Seton Hall game, and it showed in the Marquette game where they played their arse off in the second half.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:49 am to FamousAmos
quote:
-Pat Swilling Jr would've been enrolled
-Calvin Godfrey qualified
-Odoh qualified
-Hamilton stayed
-Trent didn't whiff on Ricardo Gathers AND Devonte Pollard
Hard to say how any of these would have done. Hamilton, yeah, safe to say we would be much better with him. Godfrey was a total unknown and might have been a flop even though he had size. Odoh would have probably helped on defense and rebounding. Swilling I don't think would help at all as he would have been just another wing player. Pollard hasn't been the instant success everyone thought he would be at Alabama although he has been good at times. Gaithers I know nothing about.
I hope next year's players are as good as their press releases and they can make an instant transition to college ball.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:15 pm to SouthOfSouth
SOS, your pre-conference record prediction tells me that you are of the same thinking as me in that you expected better so far and that this team is underachieving.
If you do agree with , what do you think the reason is for the underachievement?
If you do agree with , what do you think the reason is for the underachievement?
Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:25 pm to Tiger Ugly
quote:
SOS, your pre-conference record prediction tells me that you are of the same thinking as me in that you expected better so far and that this team is underachieving.
If you do agree with , what do you think the reason is for the underachievement?
I totally agree that they are underachieving. Obviously at this point I thought 2-2 would be most likely with a chance at 3-1.
For one, I think we are really struggling to have a complete game. LSU needs ALL 3 of these things to win:
1. Rebound
2. Take care of ball (~10-15 turnovers)
3. Shoot the ball decent
In each of our games we have had 1 or 2 of these things not happen, and until we can have complete games, we will not win.
The first two games we took care of the ball. 7 and 12 turnovers were not bad totals.
Auburn
1. 40 to 38 advantage - Good
2. 12 turnovers - Good
3. Shot 37% - BAD
Florida
1. 53 to 34 disadvantage - BAD
2. 7 turnovers - Good
3. Shot 32% - Bad
South Carolina
1. 40-36 advantage - Good
2. 22 turnovers - BAD
3. Shot 41% - meh...
Georgia
1. 38-29 advantage - Good
2. 21 turnovers - BAD
3. Shot 36% - BAD
Until we can put these together, we will not be winning very much. This team needs to hit their 3 point baskets at a much better percentage than they have so far, because we know we don't have very solid post offense.
It hasn't been lack of hustle, because they do that very well. To me it has just been LSU not being able to put the dagger in the hearts of their opponents.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:34 pm to SouthOfSouth
quote:
It hasn't been lack of hustle, because they do that very well. To me it has just been LSU not being able to put the dagger in the hearts of their opponents.
This. We're unable to build any leads, so we can never afford a dry spell in shooting. So when one comes, we're unable to recover completely.
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