re: bands that you loved until you saw live

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here are plenty of exceptions to the rule, the roots being the beacon of light in live hip hop.

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Sure, as is Talib Kweli and Nas. But I'm shocked by how many terrible hip hop shows I've been to. I have no idea why rap doesn't translate to a live performance, as you'd think it would.

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re:cervantes, its awesome to smoke and not be hassled at all. The only problem is the owner is a fricking dick and a half.

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Have not heard that about the owner. I love the environment but also they pull in some great artists. I've never been hassled about smoking anywhere except for The Marquis. frick that place.

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flaming lips were boring as hell when i saw them live, festival set though, so i give them a slight pass.

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I 100% agree that Flaming Lips are boring as hell. I really love their sound and the albums they put out, but I've been to 3 different shows now and every time I end up getting obliterated due to boredom. And they do the same shite at every show. Lots of smoke machines, confetti cannons, and Coyne running around in his cape then staring into the fish eye lens.