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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:27 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:27 am
Does it matter one way or another to the criticism of Les Miles if Clemson makes or misses its game-ending field goal?

In other words, is "but we won, didn't we?", as we often see with Mr. Miles, an always valid excuse for a coaching performance?
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:29 am to
At the end of the day winning is all that matters, it doesn't matter how you got the win
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:31 am to
Winning is the end goal, but it's not simply winning one game, it's winning many games consistently over a long period of time. If an individual game is won, but won in a fashion that reveals glaring flaws in the team which may prevent future victory, then the criticism is valid and whether or not the Clemson kicker hits or misses is irrelevant.
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:31 am to
For one time in my life I agree with the idea of what you are saying. Even if he misses that FG, the problems are still pretty glaring to me.
Posted by brewhan davey
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Does it matter one way or another to the criticism of Les Miles if Clemson makes or misses its game-ending field goal?


Absolutely. Clemson misses the FG, the Miles apologists can still have more of an argument to rationalize his win/loss record.

Clemson makes the FG, and there really is no way to defend him.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Does it matter one way or another to the criticism of Les Miles if Clemson makes or misses its game-ending field goal?

In other words, is "but we won, didn't we?", as we often see with Mr. Miles, an always valid excuse for a coaching performance?



It doesn't change the problem we have. Which is an under performing Offense.

In honesty thou not as many ranters would be upset. Also those that think that Les is doing a good job with the Offense would say--Hey we are winning the games what more do you want Les to do.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 10:37 am
Posted by Tiger-kev
Mobile, AL
Member since Feb 2005
527 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:44 am to
What if....?

What if the 4th and 16 is not a miracle completion?
What if we make the 2 yards and a first down to ice the game?
What if he misses the field goal?
What if we cover Yelding and stop him for a 5 yard gain?
What if Okie State doesn't lose to an inferior Iowa State team?

What if? LSU would be playing for their 2nd championship in a row and would be seen in a lot different light. Offensive woes or not.

A few minor things make a big difference! Don't you think?
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:51 am to
I wasn't posting on here in November, but man, just think about that one Yeldon TD where Minter inexcusably tries a fake blitz (& Barrow too!) up the A gap out of a dime defense when the 2 extra dime backs (Mills & Eugene) were both blitzing off the edges. Talk about an absurd play that changed the fate of the year. Cray cray.

I never got a chance to say this before so I'll just go ahead and say it now--THERE IS NO WAY THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

A lot of people around here would be singing a different tune about the program for sure... but not me!
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:59 am to
quote:

In other words, is "but we won, didn't we?", as we often see with Mr. Miles, an always valid excuse for a coaching performance?
I've said this for years, but it always keeps happening...until it doesn't.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:06 am to
Losing wasn't all bad if it makes the team better and improves the offense in the long run. It was only a chicken bowl loss. It's all how Les handles it. LSU was downright lucky not to have more losses the way we played vs Arky, Ole Miss, and Auburn. We could have easily dropped 2 more. Our defense has spoiled us the last few years. With player losses to next year's defense the offense will have to be better.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38402 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:29 am to
quote:

In other words, is "but we won, didn't we?", as we often see with Mr. Miles, an always valid excuse for a coaching performance?


The bluegrass miracle phenomenon
Posted by redfish99
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Member since Aug 2007
16612 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 3:05 pm to
I hate to admit it but I was actually hoping he would make it so the fall out would be greater. The man has to be held accountable for a loss now,not another vintage Miles victory.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27750 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 3:09 pm to
If we had won it would be like 2010 where we lost to Auburn and Arkansas on the road. Both played bcs games and one won the natty. Same here.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66563 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 3:11 pm to
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"but we won, didn't we?"


How many times did we hear this when we played like shite. Finally caught up to us.
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