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Beyond merely stupid- stupid to the 10th power.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:24 pm
You have a 2-point lead.
You have the ball.
Two minutes remain.
Get 2 first downs, run out the clock, & you win the game.
Go 3 & out, & they will come back at you with one of the country's better fg kickers.
What do you do?
Throw on 1st & 10, catch them off guard, & pick up 8 yds- good idea.
On 2d & 2 you can run, but instead you PASS again?!!!
Then you make the same mistake on 3d & 2?!!!
You are beyond stupid.
You have the ball.
Two minutes remain.
Get 2 first downs, run out the clock, & you win the game.
Go 3 & out, & they will come back at you with one of the country's better fg kickers.
What do you do?
Throw on 1st & 10, catch them off guard, & pick up 8 yds- good idea.
On 2d & 2 you can run, but instead you PASS again?!!!
Then you make the same mistake on 3d & 2?!!!
You are beyond stupid.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:27 pm to chasseur4
It appears to me that for important decisions late in games, Miles has not foresight into what the plan might be if the call fails in order to try and right the ship and achieve the immediate goal.
The 2nd and 2 is a prime example of that in last night's game. Miles made a gutsy call on 1st that was successful. My question is for 2nd down. The first down call was unexpected and so was the second down call, but a failure on second down has more consequences since you'd now have only one more chance to make the first, whereas a failure on first down, you would have two. Also, and I'm not sure what the statistics are, but on first and 10, I'd expect for there to be a lower percentage chance of converting a first down before calling a play than on 2nd and 2. The successful play on first almost takes away the uncertainty of getting a first down and allows for low risk plays that have a solid chance of gaining those necessary 2 yards.
It seems to me that some of these types of considerations should be going through Miles mind before making his play-calling decisions. I think a better representation of Miles' apparent lack of foresight would be against Tennessee when he ran Jefferson with no timeouts and appeared to have no play ready to run in case the previous call was unsuccessful, which it was. This makes even less sense under the circumstances with having plenty of time to run two passing plays, or even a passing play and then a run if that play is not successful. Although I'm not a coach, this type of thought process seems very intuitive and necessary in this situation and it baffles me that Miles appears to lack meaningful insight in these critical situations.
The 2nd and 2 is a prime example of that in last night's game. Miles made a gutsy call on 1st that was successful. My question is for 2nd down. The first down call was unexpected and so was the second down call, but a failure on second down has more consequences since you'd now have only one more chance to make the first, whereas a failure on first down, you would have two. Also, and I'm not sure what the statistics are, but on first and 10, I'd expect for there to be a lower percentage chance of converting a first down before calling a play than on 2nd and 2. The successful play on first almost takes away the uncertainty of getting a first down and allows for low risk plays that have a solid chance of gaining those necessary 2 yards.
It seems to me that some of these types of considerations should be going through Miles mind before making his play-calling decisions. I think a better representation of Miles' apparent lack of foresight would be against Tennessee when he ran Jefferson with no timeouts and appeared to have no play ready to run in case the previous call was unsuccessful, which it was. This makes even less sense under the circumstances with having plenty of time to run two passing plays, or even a passing play and then a run if that play is not successful. Although I'm not a coach, this type of thought process seems very intuitive and necessary in this situation and it baffles me that Miles appears to lack meaningful insight in these critical situations.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:29 pm to chasseur4
LSU has some stupid coaches and some players that did not execute at all (vadal)
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:31 pm to chasseur4
quote:
On 2d & 2 you can run, but instead you PASS again?!!!
Was the play open or not?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:31 pm to chasseur4
quote:Does this pattern sound anything like what led to this season's last 40 seconds loss to Alabama?
You have a 2-point lead.
You have the ball.
Two minutes remain.
Get 2 first downs, run out the clock, & you win the game.
Go 3 & out, & they will come back at you with one of the country's better fg kickers.
What do you do?
Throw on 1st & 10, catch them off guard, & pick up 8 yds- good idea.
On 2d & 2 you can run, but instead you PASS again?!!!
Then you make the same mistake on 3d & 2?!!!
You are beyond stupid.
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