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re: This is what a program in decline looks and feels like...
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:58 pm to FlyingTiger06
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:58 pm to FlyingTiger06
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Go ask Nebraska fans how it turns out for you when you fire a coach after going 9-3 because that's not the "championship level you demand." They fired Frank Solich and went out and tried to make a homerun hire with an NFL coach who would bring in a new high powered NFL offense to replace the tired, 70s era power running offense. Bill Callahan proceeded to make that program a joke and they are still trying to recover today.
Look, I'm as frustrated about the loss as anyone but and yes some improvements need to be made (on both sides of the ball) before next season, but the program is not in decline. The sky is not falling. Going off your steak analogy, this season is the equivalent of asking for your steak to be cooked perfectly to a medium rare and getting it slightly more toward medium. Do you complain and ask for a new steak? Probably, but you don't demand the chef be fired because the steak wasn't exactly up to your demanding standards.
I don't recall saying anywhere in there I want to see Miles fired. I'd like to see the entire offensive staff replaced, and a new DB coach, and I'd like Miles to relinquish any play-calling duties he might currently have.
But even if he was fired, a coaching change isn't a death knell. You mention Nebraska. How about Ohio State going from Tressel to Urban? Florida going from Urban to Muschamp and bouncing back to an 11 win regular season in only 2 years? Stanford going from Harbaugh to Shaw and staying right at the same level? Oregon going from good under Belloti to outstanding under Kelly?
I don't think he will be fired though, but LSU will slowly decline relatively as programs like Tennessee, Auburn, and Ole Miss rebound and it gets harder to win week after week. Offensive recruits will look elsewhere because they know they won't get a chance to shine at LSU. We will slip to 7 or 8 win a year status, and eventually a change will happen, years later than it should, and a new coach will have to rebuild the program and convince recruits that LSU is where they want to be all over again.
To complete the steak analogy, if I kept going to that restaurant and they kept giving me steak cooked incorrectly, I'd probably quit going there. Which is close to where I am with LSU football right now.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:10 pm to nf
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I don't recall saying anywhere in there I want to see Miles fired. I'd like to see the entire offensive staff replaced, and a new DB coach, and I'd like Miles to relinquish any play-calling duties he might currently have. But even if he was fired, a coaching change isn't a death knell. You mention Nebraska. How about Ohio State going from Tressel to Urban? Florida going from Urban to Muschamp and bouncing back to an 11 win regular season in only 2 years? Stanford going from Harbaugh to Shaw and staying right at the same level? Oregon going from good under Belloti to outstanding under Kelly? I don't think he will be fired though, but LSU will slowly decline relatively as programs like Tennessee, Auburn, and Ole Miss rebound and it gets harder to win week after week. Offensive recruits will look elsewhere because they know they won't get a chance to shine at LSU. We will slip to 7 or 8 win a year status, and eventually a change will happen, years later than it should, and a new coach will have to rebuild the program and convince recruits that LSU is where they want to be all over again. To complete the steak analogy, if I kept going to that restaurant and they kept giving me steak cooked incorrectly, I'd probably quit going there. Which is close to where I am with LSU football right now.
Very well said!
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Posted on 1/1/13 at 5:37 pm to nf
While you may not have mentioned him being fired, a lot of folks are. Your post just seemed to be following suit. I apologize if it appeared I was putting words in your mouth. However, none of the coaching changes you mentioned were started because of firing a coach who just wasn't meeting demanding expectations.
As far as the bad offense, I think most people can see that there was a mix of bad calls and poor execution; not just one or the other. In the 1st Quarter Mett was sacked 4 times and you can't blame all of that on Mett's immobility or playcalling. We'll never really know how good/bad those plays were because Alexander and Turner were being whipped by the Clemson DL.
In the 4th quarter Mett missed on two throws to wide open receivers. They were open due to excellent play design and call, but the execution wasn't there.
My simple point is that the sky isn't falling and we're still a damn strong football program. Last night was a combination of poor play calling at certain times and poor execution at others. I believe Miles will analyze this season and make required adjustments just as he has in the past.
As far as the bad offense, I think most people can see that there was a mix of bad calls and poor execution; not just one or the other. In the 1st Quarter Mett was sacked 4 times and you can't blame all of that on Mett's immobility or playcalling. We'll never really know how good/bad those plays were because Alexander and Turner were being whipped by the Clemson DL.
In the 4th quarter Mett missed on two throws to wide open receivers. They were open due to excellent play design and call, but the execution wasn't there.
My simple point is that the sky isn't falling and we're still a damn strong football program. Last night was a combination of poor play calling at certain times and poor execution at others. I believe Miles will analyze this season and make required adjustments just as he has in the past.
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