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re: This is why we don't shoot nice deer
Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:32 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 12/18/12 at 8:32 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The gene that determines antler growth is controlled primarily by the doe
Whether or not that is true, we can only control the bucks anyway. There is evidence that this works.
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In a companion study, spike antlered males were bred to does from spike antlered sires. This study demonstrated the effects of not harvesting spikes on future antler quality. All deer in this study were fed a high-protein diet, and 78% were spikes as yearlings
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Each board displays 4 generations of deer. All antlers are from 3 year-old deer. From top to bottom are the great grandfather, grandfather, father, and son.
The antlers on the left are from deer that were forked antlered as yearlings and whose dams were from fork antlered sires.
The antlers on the right were from bucks that were spike antlered as yearlings. Their dams were also sired by spike antlered bucks
Pic here - won't embed for some reason
Once one starts managing, kill old does.
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Kerr genetic studies indicate bucks with the best antlers will produce more progeny with exceptional antlers than will poorer bucks. The does influence antler production as well. Harvest of older does is important to insure younger does are products of better bucks.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 8:37 am
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:04 am to AlxTgr
I know the guy who runs idle wild deer research facility. I'm sure it's somewhere on the Internet. I go by what he tells me since he does it for a living.
That whole study is correct, but you have to keep in mind they have absolute control over the entire deer population. I'm a firm believer that deer management is simply not feasible in some locations. I've seen it work and I've seen it have no effect on what was seen and killed.
As for the doe thing, I just find it comical when places put in point restrictions and never even consider the doe being a big part of what they have. Managing your does is much more important than managing bucks, as does will stay around and will often run off their young as a way of preventing inbreeding. Most of the bucks you have will come from somewhere else.
DT, I have every rack from every buck I've ever killed mounted on driftwood from the swamp. I'm quite proud of every one of them and they all have a story with them. Killing a buck of any size here is a huge accomplishment. If it wasn't I wouldn't shoot them.
That whole study is correct, but you have to keep in mind they have absolute control over the entire deer population. I'm a firm believer that deer management is simply not feasible in some locations. I've seen it work and I've seen it have no effect on what was seen and killed.
As for the doe thing, I just find it comical when places put in point restrictions and never even consider the doe being a big part of what they have. Managing your does is much more important than managing bucks, as does will stay around and will often run off their young as a way of preventing inbreeding. Most of the bucks you have will come from somewhere else.
DT, I have every rack from every buck I've ever killed mounted on driftwood from the swamp. I'm quite proud of every one of them and they all have a story with them. Killing a buck of any size here is a huge accomplishment. If it wasn't I wouldn't shoot them.
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