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Graham Still Motivated by Doubters
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:38 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:38 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:40 am to Lafayette VooDoo
Doesn't he lead the NFL in drops?
I think his injuries slowed him down this year
I think his injuries slowed him down this year
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:59 am to TigerBait1127
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Doesn't he lead the NFL in drops?
Yes
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I think his injuries slowed him down this year
Big time
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:25 am to TigerBait1127
the drive and determination he has is what made the difference of him being a a high risk homerun versus a strikeout. This aspect of talent evaluation is prolly what we as fans have the least insight to. You can see game highlights and combine results. When the Saints players talk about having a great locker room and the comraderie necessary to win is where this comes into play.
Taking those kinda risks and hitting it big is a tremendous boon. Ya just gotta be wise and avoid the strikeouts. Carl Nicks was a late 2nd Rd talent we got in the 5th Rd mainly cuz of character concerns. He ended up great.
CB Janoris Jenkins was prolly the headline name in that category last year. If not kicked off the Florida team and having a good record he might have challenged Claiborne for the top CB picked. The Rams got him at #39 in the 2nd Rd instead- looking great so far.
Dez Bryant went #24 instead of higher for the same thing. Very talented even at the NFL level but you have seen the boys have had to deal with his lackings in the intangibles.
To be clear, there was not a question about Graham's intangibles. I think it was these same strengths mentioned in the story that made taking a risk on his very limited experience a full go.
Sorry to make anyone miss class reading. This is just such a key issue that many fans don't get... Go after Haynesworth! The past 7 seasons have shown us we can trust the decisions the FO makes in who or who not to bring in or draft when it comes to character risk.
Taking those kinda risks and hitting it big is a tremendous boon. Ya just gotta be wise and avoid the strikeouts. Carl Nicks was a late 2nd Rd talent we got in the 5th Rd mainly cuz of character concerns. He ended up great.
CB Janoris Jenkins was prolly the headline name in that category last year. If not kicked off the Florida team and having a good record he might have challenged Claiborne for the top CB picked. The Rams got him at #39 in the 2nd Rd instead- looking great so far.
Dez Bryant went #24 instead of higher for the same thing. Very talented even at the NFL level but you have seen the boys have had to deal with his lackings in the intangibles.
To be clear, there was not a question about Graham's intangibles. I think it was these same strengths mentioned in the story that made taking a risk on his very limited experience a full go.
Sorry to make anyone miss class reading. This is just such a key issue that many fans don't get... Go after Haynesworth! The past 7 seasons have shown us we can trust the decisions the FO makes in who or who not to bring in or draft when it comes to character risk.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:32 am to blueslover
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The past 7 seasons have shown us we can trust the decisions the FO makes in who or who not to bring in or draft when it comes to character risk.
How some of the Saintards on this board cannot grasp this concept is beyond me.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:45 am to Lafayette VooDoo
If there is one complaint I have about Jimmy it's that he doesn't attack the football with his hands. He waits for it to get to him with this sort of weird T-Rex arm stance...that allows passes to get broken up. I would like to see him be more aggressive attacking the ball. Am I the only one who sees this?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:00 am to Lafayette VooDoo
He should be. I know he's talented but I've had my doubts this year. He's dropped some easy arse passes and killer would-be 3rd down conversions.
And yeah I see what you mean about him not comin back to the ball. He almost caused (another ) near interception in the Atlanta game doing that
And yeah I see what you mean about him not comin back to the ball. He almost caused (another ) near interception in the Atlanta game doing that
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:03 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
and that is the point about understanding how raw he was. The kid is playing at the highest level of competition with a sum total of 3 years experience in the sport all together. As good as he is he does have more upside to go.
Jimmy: Drew, how long ya been playing football?
Drew: Hmm, lessee Pop Warner was from eight, so started in 1987. That would be heading towards 25 years I've been doing this.
Jimmy: Well at least I was born a year before you started playing.
Drew: I won a Super Bowl the season you started playing.
Jimmy: Damn, I gotta work harder and get me one of those rings.
Bonus pick- Even rawer Hicks looks like he could have the same big bust out potential. They're bringing him along steadily. He was up to 48% of the snaps last week. Multiply his impact as his performance increases then double the snaps next year and it could be similar to Graham from 2010 to 2011 (31 to 99 catches).
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sidetrack:
Rookie Brandon Weeden for the Browns is quite an oddity but thought this was still a mind blowing fact... Aaron Rodgers is younger than him.
Jimmy: Drew, how long ya been playing football?
Drew: Hmm, lessee Pop Warner was from eight, so started in 1987. That would be heading towards 25 years I've been doing this.
Jimmy: Well at least I was born a year before you started playing.
Drew: I won a Super Bowl the season you started playing.
Jimmy: Damn, I gotta work harder and get me one of those rings.
Bonus pick- Even rawer Hicks looks like he could have the same big bust out potential. They're bringing him along steadily. He was up to 48% of the snaps last week. Multiply his impact as his performance increases then double the snaps next year and it could be similar to Graham from 2010 to 2011 (31 to 99 catches).
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sidetrack:
Rookie Brandon Weeden for the Browns is quite an oddity but thought this was still a mind blowing fact... Aaron Rodgers is younger than him.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:14 pm to Elleshoe
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Graham has doubters?
If you aint first, youre last amiright?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 1:23 pm to Elleshoe
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Graham has doubters?
Doubt it.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 3:12 pm to blueslover
Good point about Hicks. I'm really excited about his growth and potential. You can already see it year one when he's able to shed double teams as still affect the pocket
Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:04 pm to The Sad Banana
Yes I see this too. Graham needs to be more aggressive running his routes and breaking tackles also He falls down as soon az he's touched. Hopefully just a sophamore slump. He has all star potential but not producing at that level this year.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 7:10 pm to Slapouttiger
quote:G is still learning how to play football. Considering he only had one year of college experience, I'd say he's pretty damn good. G will go down as one of all time greats before it's all said and done.
Yes I see this too. Graham needs to be more aggressive running his routes and breaking tackles also He falls down as soon az he's touched. Hopefully just a sophamore slump. He has all star potential but not producing at that level this year.
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