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Things you'll like to know about Clemson fans...
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:58 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:58 am
As a South Carolina fan, just wanted to give you guys a heads up on what you'll see if you visit Atlanta. Not all Clemson fans are bad. They have just all made bad choices in life. I have a lot of Clemson friends. They are currently just in shock after their last game with us. So largely, you won't see the type of guys that come over here to talk smack and post stuff on Youtube. But still, they have a good share of obnoxious people that you'll need to be prepared for, and here are some main things to keep in mind.
1. Dabo cares about optics, first and foremost.
You will hear Clemson fans talk a lot about 110%, but the truth is you need to go no farther than their last game with us to see that Dabo doesn't really care about that. He punted with 3 and a half minutes left in the game, down by 10, when his offense had around 15 total plays in the second half. To say that he actually believed he could stop us, get the ball back and score twice at that point is laughable. The only thing his team really had going for it this year was the offense anyway, so punting at that point was even more telling than usual. He punted because we would've gotten the ball on their 30 and the Tigers would've lost by 17 points to us, again, and that is something he didn't want to occur. Instead, he punts, basically gives up any slim chance of winning the game so they could have a moral victory of only losing to us by 10 points this year. Based on their own rules, Dabo should never touch the rock again. If that is 110%, keep it. Which leads me to the second point.
2. Expect the moral victory chatter shortly after the game.
When Les Miles decides to play some of his younger guys for experience after the game is well in hand, Clemson will probably get a few quick scores. They may get another 14, and end the game only losing by 12-14 points. As they are leaving the stadium, you'll hear "Hey, we only lost to LSU by 14 with a bad defense, that's not too bad." Of course they conveniently ignore the fact that they scored a lot in junk time, which Dabo is the king of. Despite this...
3. Highly paid assistants get blamed rather than the head coach.
This one is beginning to turn, but I think it was spurred on by denial. It is strange to most college football fans to see this, most of the time when a program has a glaring weakness the head coach gets the lion's share of the blame. Dabo has largely managed to avoid this with some misdirection and a showcase of what he does do well. He is well known for being a good salesman as that is what he did before he actually started coaching. Because he's good at sales, he does well in recruiting, very well actually, especially to skill positions. He also does well at fundraisers and pumping up the faithful with staged rants that he coordinates with local media. This makes it convenient to blame coordinators, specifically the Defensive Coordinator given recent performances on the field. But it's started to bleed over, even Chad Morris (who they once thought could do no wrong) is getting hazed for our game with us for "abandoning the run" or "panicking" when most fanbases would actually blame, you know, the head coach for that stuff. And sure, maybe Dabo doesn't call the plays, but the head coach can set the tempo and demand a certain gameplan be followed. At least, you'd think he could. More and more Clemson fans are beginning to admit Dabo is just a "figurehead," and they've used that exact word to describe him. That tends to be a recipe for long term disaster in my opinion, but we'll see. Regardless, when they lose to LSU, you will be shocked at how much other people besides Dabo are blamed.
1. Dabo cares about optics, first and foremost.
You will hear Clemson fans talk a lot about 110%, but the truth is you need to go no farther than their last game with us to see that Dabo doesn't really care about that. He punted with 3 and a half minutes left in the game, down by 10, when his offense had around 15 total plays in the second half. To say that he actually believed he could stop us, get the ball back and score twice at that point is laughable. The only thing his team really had going for it this year was the offense anyway, so punting at that point was even more telling than usual. He punted because we would've gotten the ball on their 30 and the Tigers would've lost by 17 points to us, again, and that is something he didn't want to occur. Instead, he punts, basically gives up any slim chance of winning the game so they could have a moral victory of only losing to us by 10 points this year. Based on their own rules, Dabo should never touch the rock again. If that is 110%, keep it. Which leads me to the second point.
2. Expect the moral victory chatter shortly after the game.
When Les Miles decides to play some of his younger guys for experience after the game is well in hand, Clemson will probably get a few quick scores. They may get another 14, and end the game only losing by 12-14 points. As they are leaving the stadium, you'll hear "Hey, we only lost to LSU by 14 with a bad defense, that's not too bad." Of course they conveniently ignore the fact that they scored a lot in junk time, which Dabo is the king of. Despite this...
3. Highly paid assistants get blamed rather than the head coach.
This one is beginning to turn, but I think it was spurred on by denial. It is strange to most college football fans to see this, most of the time when a program has a glaring weakness the head coach gets the lion's share of the blame. Dabo has largely managed to avoid this with some misdirection and a showcase of what he does do well. He is well known for being a good salesman as that is what he did before he actually started coaching. Because he's good at sales, he does well in recruiting, very well actually, especially to skill positions. He also does well at fundraisers and pumping up the faithful with staged rants that he coordinates with local media. This makes it convenient to blame coordinators, specifically the Defensive Coordinator given recent performances on the field. But it's started to bleed over, even Chad Morris (who they once thought could do no wrong) is getting hazed for our game with us for "abandoning the run" or "panicking" when most fanbases would actually blame, you know, the head coach for that stuff. And sure, maybe Dabo doesn't call the plays, but the head coach can set the tempo and demand a certain gameplan be followed. At least, you'd think he could. More and more Clemson fans are beginning to admit Dabo is just a "figurehead," and they've used that exact word to describe him. That tends to be a recipe for long term disaster in my opinion, but we'll see. Regardless, when they lose to LSU, you will be shocked at how much other people besides Dabo are blamed.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:03 am to Trapper82
Good first post. Now tell me -- who the hell names a kid "Dabo"? Or is that a nickname? I didn't know any Dabos growing up.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:07 am to liquid rabbit
It's a nickname, I think his brother couldn't say his real name so he called him "That boy," only when he'd say it it sounded like Dabo. I don't even know his real name.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:13 am to liquid rabbit
Is he that dude on the movie "Be Cool"?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:16 am to Trapper82
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William Christopher "Dabo" Swinney (born November 20, 1969)
His brother couldn't say "William"? Or Billy? Wow.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:18 am to liquid rabbit
Maybe he was a toddler at the time, so it's not as bad as it sounds?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:26 am to Trapper82
Honestly what kind of name is Les?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:26 am to Trapper82
I think I'm gonna hate Clemson fans.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:28 am to SammyMarley
quote:
Honestly what kind of name is Les?
Short for Leslie...
:inb4WhatkindofnameisLeslieforaman:
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:30 am to SammyMarley
quote:
Honestly what kind of name is Les?
A damn strong one.....
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:34 am to BRgetthenet
I must admit the few Clemson fans who have come on here are any indication of what the majority of their fan base is like....it will be easy to hate them. So far they seem to have a very blurred vision on reality and really has a bad understanding of football.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:37 am to SammyMarley
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SammyMarley
Things you'll like to know about Clemson fans...
Honestly what kind of name is Les?
An 85-20, Six 11+ win seasons in eight years,
2 SEC titles, 1 NC, - kind of name.
And Dabo?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:38 am to SeattleTiger19
quote:
So far they seem to have a very blurred vision on reality and really has a bad understanding of football.
To me, it sounds like they will fit in just fine here...

Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:20 am to Trapper82
Things you'll like to know about USCe fans:
Actually, info is pretty scarce, as most believe that football was only started 4 years ago. They use to be tough to find, but now their all over everyone's board proving their ignorance.
It's funny too b/c they seem completely oblivious to the fact that this past 4 year run is the obvious and undisputed outlier to what their program truely is, a complete dumpster fire.
It took a HOF coach and the best season in their program's history to get to 5th place in the SEC. Don't worry though, it didn't go unnoticed. They made up their own 5th place rings for their accomplishments. Pathetic.
Actually, info is pretty scarce, as most believe that football was only started 4 years ago. They use to be tough to find, but now their all over everyone's board proving their ignorance.
It's funny too b/c they seem completely oblivious to the fact that this past 4 year run is the obvious and undisputed outlier to what their program truely is, a complete dumpster fire.
It took a HOF coach and the best season in their program's history to get to 5th place in the SEC. Don't worry though, it didn't go unnoticed. They made up their own 5th place rings for their accomplishments. Pathetic.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:26 am to SeattleTiger19
quote:
I must admit the few Clemson fans who have come on here are any indication of what the majority of their fan base is like....it will be easy to hate them.
They are, and it is. Trust us on this one...
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:27 am to CUTiger230
@CUTiger230
I'd personally avoid trying to bash a team as pathetic when they've recently beat you like a rented mule, but that's me.
Can you actually defend any of the points I brought up? Do you want to argue Dabo's punt was for any reason other than losing by less? Keep on with the 110% if it makes you feel better.
I'd personally avoid trying to bash a team as pathetic when they've recently beat you like a rented mule, but that's me.
Can you actually defend any of the points I brought up? Do you want to argue Dabo's punt was for any reason other than losing by less? Keep on with the 110% if it makes you feel better.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:32 am to Trapper82
Sorry, your post is the definition of tldr.
And we've beaten you like a rented mule for over 100 years. Care to share with your LSU friends where the first 60 games of our series was played?
Are you really trying to act like USCe's football program isn't the definition of pathetic? If so, this thread should bring the lulz!!
And we've beaten you like a rented mule for over 100 years. Care to share with your LSU friends where the first 60 games of our series was played?
Are you really trying to act like USCe's football program isn't the definition of pathetic? If so, this thread should bring the lulz!!
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:35 am to CUTiger230
cool story
hey, did your grandfather enjoy all those clemson wins as much as I've been enjoying the gamecocks wins of late?
hey, did your grandfather enjoy all those clemson wins as much as I've been enjoying the gamecocks wins of late?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:36 am to CluckFemson
Cooler story, I've beaten USCe 4 times in a row......4 times in my life.
I'm only 30, lol. Pathetic. Anything else you got for me?
I'm only 30, lol. Pathetic. Anything else you got for me?
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