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re: The Time Table for the Dollar

Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by WikiTiger
Member since Sep 2007
41055 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:21 pm to
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Their complete and total disregard for economic good in the pursuit of robbing the federal government of power.


I understand where you are coming from, but the difference between us is that I don't like taking perceived shortcuts because more often than not they have long term negative effects. Your definition of "economic good" may be good for the here and now, but maybe not so much for the there and then.

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Someone has to control the currency


I disagree. But then that gets into my view on things like Bitcoin and what not, and I don't think this thread needs to devolve into a discussion on that.

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Please explain a system that is more free than the one we have.


Well shite. I may not have a choice to avoid it. Umm...well....Bitcoin is a perfect example of this. If it, or something like it takes off in the future, then it will be the example you seek. A currency and economy completely free of meddling, and only impacted by supply and demand.

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random shiny metal


FWIW, I don't care for gold at all. I don't understand why any one would ever consider it valuable, to be honest. However, I understand it's use in the past, although I do think it's something we should get away from in the future.

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If you were setting up a government and someone were to tell you that you could control 2 of the 3 following options, which one would you choose?

1) Fixed Exchange Rate
2) Sovereign Monetary Policy
3) Free Capital Flow

Which ones would you choose?


If those are my only choices, then I'd pick #2 and #3, but I don't understand why I would have to choose any of those anyway.





This post was edited on 12/3/12 at 8:22 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:29 pm to
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Someone has to control the currency



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I disagree.


There was a time in US history (the so-called "free banking" period in the early 19th century) when there was no central bank and in fact banks issued their own promissory notes.

The problems with this are numerous. First off, every person is now in the position of having to judge how good a particular bank's "currency" is. If you have a ten dollar bill drawn on Bank One and another drawn on Bank Two, are they really of equal value? Will a grocery store agree with you?

Having a single issuing authority removes these problems. Bitcoin has something like this as well, even though there is no human authority the core issuing rules are a substitute for that. In a sense, Bitcoin has a "central authority" that can't change the rules.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 12/3/12 at 8:47 pm to
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Your definition of "economic good" may be good for the here and now, but maybe not so much for the there and then.


I can respect that. I would just have to hear some better idea than what we have.

I agree with not wanting this to devolve into a bitcoin argument, but even bitcoin is governed by a set of rules. Are you for a single global currency?

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I don't care for gold at all. I don't understand why any one would ever consider it valuable, to be honest.




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If those are my only choices, then I'd pick #2 and #3, but I don't understand why I would have to choose any of those anyway.



It's the impossible trinity. The problem that all countries have with banking. You Chose what the US has, which is the most logical, IMO.

Here's a 80 second explanation. LINK
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