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re: Herbie just slobber knockered all over what's his name at ND

Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2781 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:44 pm to
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I wanted Woodson to win over Manning and Suh to win the year he was up for it


Woodson's defensive stats (Woodson had a punt return TD in his last game against OSU, though he was the 7th best punt returner in the Big 10 that year):

42 tackles
1 sack
7 INTs
0 fumble recoveries


Te'o's stats:

103 tackles
1.5 sacks
7 INTs
1 fumble recovery

In other words, more than twice as many tackles, more sacks and tackles for losses, and more forced turnovers. But you're right - Woodson deserved to WIN the Heisman, and Te'o doesn't deserve to even be invited.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 12:45 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30970 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 1:09 pm to
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In other words, more than twice as many tackles, more sacks and tackles for losses, and more forced turnovers. But you're right - Woodson deserved to WIN the Heisman, and Te'o doesn't deserve to even be invited


The fact you are attempting to compare the tackles and sacks stats of a linebacker and a cornerback tells me all I need to know about your football IQ.

Full disclosure: I was like 14 or 15 (i.e. not that smart) when Woodson won the Heisman and didn't like Manning so there is some bias there. I don't know if I would have the same opinion today but I do remember that everytime I watched Michigan back then (which was often) Woodson was making huge plays and shutting down receivers. There was certainly no discussion over whether or not Woodson was the best defensive player or CB in the nation. That was obvious to anyone.

Te'o isn't even the best LB.
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 1:12 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81351 posts
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:17 pm to
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more sacks and tackles for losses, and more forced turnovers.


1. Woodson (a CORNERBACK) had 0.5 less sacks than Te'O (a linebacker).

2. Woodson (a CORNERBACK) had 4.0 tackles for loss, 1.5 less than Te'O (a linebacker)

3. A fumble recovery is not a forced turnover. The teammate of his who forced the fumble is the one who forced the turnover.

4. Didn't Woodson return a punt for a touchdown and score two more that season? Doesn't Te'O have zero CAREER touchdowns?
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 8:21 pm
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