re: Herbie just slobber knockered all over what's his name at ND

Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:07 am to bayoujd

Posted by RandySavage

Member since May 2012

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Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:07 am to bayoujd

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I'm trying to discern whether the backlash against Te'o is because he plays defense or because he plays for ND.

As I stated earlier in the thread. I like Te'o a lot. I also respect ND and am far from a ND hater. The only argument in his favor is that it is indeed a down year. However, whatever the award is for "best player", "MVP", "most outstanding" he is none of those things. He's not even the best LB.

I'm not against defensive players winning it, I wanted Woodson to win over Manning and Suh to win the year he was up for it. But if you are going to win it as a defensive player you better be something truly special and Te'o just isn't that. He's a very good linebacker but there are Manti Te'o's every year in college football.

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Posted by rocket31

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Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:08 am to RandySavage

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there are Manti Te'o's every year in college football.

TIL top 5 NFL draft projected LBs are the norm across the country.

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. I also respect ND and am far from a ND hater

riiiight...

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Posted by bayoujd

Member since Jan 2009

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Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:44 pm to RandySavage

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I wanted Woodson to win over Manning and Suh to win the year he was up for it

Woodson's defensive stats (Woodson had a punt return TD in his last game against OSU, though he was the 7th best punt returner in the Big 10 that year):

42 tackles
1 sack
7 INTs
0 fumble recoveries

Te'o's stats:

103 tackles
1.5 sacks
7 INTs
1 fumble recovery

In other words, more than twice as many tackles, more sacks and tackles for losses, and more forced turnovers. But you're right - Woodson deserved to WIN the Heisman, and Te'o doesn't deserve to even be invited.