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re: You guys do realize how close we are to having back-to-back BCSNC?

Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by shang1
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:17 pm to
I realize it every day. Could have a 2 or 3. But then I think of Miles and his offensive staff, and the no discipline. Lot of folks on here accept 10-2. And they have a point. Just hate to see all that talent wasted over the years.
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:19 pm to
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droliver


2 posts? Really? This is the Tiger Rant. There is a Bama board and the SEC Rant. Look to the left.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50564 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:19 pm to
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Uhhhh 2007 and this year (potentially) ring any bells.


And? I don't care. I'm not the one bashing the manner in which another school is competing. I agree with how we got there in 2007 being similar to Bama this year.

I just find it funny a Bama fan enters the thread to tell us how supreme his program is when you consider the facts I replied with.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious, though.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:22 pm to
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The last two years, we didn't. Bama beat us both times.




LOL. Wow. I keep forgetting we lost "The Game of the Century". Thanks for reminding me.


Don't be intentially thick-witted. It's unbecoming. You know damn well I was referin gto our last two games against Bama, both of which we lost.

P.S. No one on this board is more bitter about Bama's mulligan than you are. It suffuses every post you make. But you continually overlook one key fact: LSU could have beaten Bama on the field in the Superdome and ended the supposed injustice. All we had to do was win. Instead, we lost 21-0. That's on the staff and the team, not ESPN or the media.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50564 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:31 pm to
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P.S. No one on this board is more bitter about Bama's mulligan than you are.


Ever lit a fire and ran away from it just to see what would happen? Of course you do.



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It suffuses every post you make.


It is usually relevant to the topics I choose to respond to, yes. I also make a lot of similar posts on the PoliBoard, Fantasy Board, and MoreSports Board. One of the few topics here that interests me.

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LSU could have beaten Bama on the field


They did. Why didn't it count?

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on the field in the Superdome and ended the supposed injustice.


No. It wouldn't have. I'd still be bitching. Keep trying, though.

Does it phase some of you here that while we are all Tiger fans, there are those of us who are fans of the sport as a whole? That would be me. I love CFB more than LSUFB. LSU is a part of what makes CFB great, as are the media darlings and the shitty Big East teams.

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All we had to do was win. Instead, we lost 21-0


I know. That was one of the most boring games I've ever witnessed.

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That's on the staff and the team, not ESPN or the media.


Who put Bama in the game? They certainly didn't earn it on the field. You know, in a way, one could argue that LSU put Bama in the game as well.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:32 pm to
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droliver


frick off Gump
Posted by gxtigs1
Member since Jan 2008
672 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:34 pm to
Hey Droliver
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:40 pm to
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LSU could have beaten Bama on the field in the Superdome and ended the supposed injustice.


It would not have ended it, as naysayers would have said OSU never had a shot and everyone already know LSU>Alabama
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 4:13 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50564 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:43 pm to
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It would not have endeded it as naysayers would have said OSU never had a shot and everyone already know LSU>Alabama




Or, had LSU won, Herbie and Musburger would have touted the fact that USC could have beat them.

Ghostface knows his team's place in the CFB world.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:46 pm to
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That's on the staff and the team, not ESPN or the media.




Who put Bama in the game? They certainly didn't earn it on the field. You know, in a way, one could argue that LSU put Bama in the game as well.


But, EZE, you aren't saying that the actual RESULT of the game was caused by ESPN and the media, right? You agree that the actual plays on the field and the 21-0 result were the product of player execution and coaching, true? Irrespective of the reason Bama was IN the game, they WON the game by three TD's because they had better coaching and better execution.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34887 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:48 pm to
yea and 2 months earlier we had better coaching and excecution.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:53 pm to
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yea and 2 months earlier we had better coaching and excecution.


That's immaterial. You can debate whether or not Bama deserved to be in the game. But what you can't debate is that once the teams took the field on 1/9, all LSU had to do was WIN in order to secure its first undefeated NC in hald a century. Even if Bama was there as a result of an overt media conspiracy hatched in Bristol, LSU could have still averted disaster by simply beating them that night in Superdome. Instead, we lost by three touchdowns because of a horrendous gameplan, poor personnel management, and lackluster execution. That's on the coaches.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44602 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:53 pm to
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let me remind you (again) that these programs are only seperated by (1) 2 inches (Oklahoma St. missed FG vs Iowa St. in 2011)


well that and those 21 pts they dropped on us on 1/9
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50564 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 2:55 pm to
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But, EZE, you aren't saying that the actual RESULT of the game was caused by ESPN and the media, right?


No. My point is Bama shouldn't have been in the game, period. They already lost to LSU. I would have felt the same if Oregon had won out (including the Pac 12 title) and got the rematch.

That's what this thread is about. I just found it funny a Bama fan came into the thread to tout their "dominance" of CFB, when that is sooooo far from reality that it is comical to me. Yes, they've had a great run, but no one is dominating the sport like the media and Bama fans would like you to believe.

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they WON the game by three TD's because they had better coaching and better execution.


On that day, yes. When it "counted" in November, they clearly did not. Had it "counted", threads like this would be moot, which is another point I was making for you and the Bama fan.

As a fan of the sport, it always amazes me which games "count" and which ones don't. Which programs get the benefit of the doubt, and which ones don't. As a fan of LSU, I'm comfortable knowing our place in the CFB world. I'm happy with it. I'm just tired of seeing my favorite sport turned into the WWE.

Saban's comments yesterday are a prime example of why CFB is not respected on the level it should be.

Posted by JustDooIt
Steeelwood
Member since Jun 2006
828 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 3:01 pm to
Slide into the luxury of your new Camry and feel that vinyl trim....almost smells like leather.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 3:01 pm to
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As a fan of the sport, it always amazes me which games "count" and which ones don't.


The situation really wasn't that unique, to be honest. RFematches happen all the time in the SEC Championship Game, right? And yet if the team that lost the regular season game wins the title game, they are SEC champions while the other team is champion of nothing, despite the fact that the two teams were 1-1 against each other that season. One game was simply more important than the other, because it was designated a championship. And of course the phenomenon is even more common in the NFL playoffs.

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Saban's comments yesterday are a prime example of why CFB is not respected on the level it should be.


I don't know about "respect," but I'm fairly certain that CFB is more popular than it's ever been.
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 3:03 pm to
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well that and those 21 pts they dropped on us on 1/9


You obviously don't understand cause and effect or you would better be able to comprehend the OP. If Oklahoma St kicks their FG 2 inches to the left, than Bama is not in the BCSNC and thus can't score 21 pts.

Is it really that complicated?

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50564 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 3:10 pm to
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The situation really wasn't that unique, to be honest. RFematches happen all the time in the SEC Championship Game, right?


Not the same. Not even close. If this was the NFL, with a tried and true playoff sytem that was in place for decades, then yes, I'd agree with you. This is not. This was a DIVISIONAL rival in a system with 119 teams where "every game counts".....supposedly...

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One game was simply more important than the other, because it was designated a championship.


Yup, and if one team wasn't good enough to win their division and conference, why were they placed over other teams who did? Again, this isn't the NFL...

What other teams did Bama "eliminate" in 2011 to earn this right? It appears to me LSU did all the eliminating for them. Hence my post earlier that LSU could also be blamed for Bama's 2011 title in another fashion.
This post was edited on 11/27/12 at 3:14 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 4:01 pm to
but if we just had oregons offense we could win every one of them. just like oregon i presume.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17500 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 4:31 pm to
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The situation really wasn't that unique, to be honest. RFematches happen all the time in the SEC Championship Game, right?


No, it's entirly unique. As far as I know, and I'm not positive, this was the first meeting of conference teams in a bowl game since the 1973 Astro-Bluebonnet Bowl where LSU played Tennessee, although it was not a rematch. The last rematch was the 1959 Ole Miss mulligan. Not sure why this keeps happening.

Nonetheless, it was entirly unprecidented in any modern era and defied any and all protocol and precident. Rematches happen after two teams EACH win a division or even a conference (1996). This was entirly bullshite.
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