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re: Overall just very disappointed with the lack of creativity on offense

Posted on 11/26/12 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by nf
Portland, OR
Member since Oct 2012
520 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 2:04 pm to
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The same is true for an offense.

I didn't realize not giving up 70 yard TD drives in 90 seconds meant perfection.

You can't expect them to be perfect and put up 30 points a game, especially when that offense is young and inexperienced. Overall the offense improved as the year went on, but still had some kinks to work out. Hopefully next year we can be a better road team.





30 points a game is not some mythical number. A&M, Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee all managed 30 ppg or more in SEC play. LSU managed 22.5 and that number is greatly inflated by the last few games of the season against teams who are in the bottom half of scoring defense in the SEC.

Yes, the offense improved as the year went on, and I hope the trend continues. But you can't lay all of the blame for a loss on your defense when the offense only puts up 17 points with 435 yards. We had red zone problems all year that meant that the defense was constantly on the hook to play lights out. I'm not surprised that they were burnt out by the end of the season, after bailing out the offense time and time again.

Look, LSU was averaging 22 PPG in SEC play. That is not enough to win every game. It just isn't. No defense is good enough to win every game when your offense is playing that badly. If your defense keeps the #1 team in the country to 21 points (I don't care how many seconds it took them to score them) then they have done a good enough job that your offense needs to be able to seal the deal. They didn't though, they put the defense in yet another must-win situation, and the defense got beat.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 2:28 pm to
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Look, LSU was averaging 22 PPG in SEC play. That is not enough to win every game. It just isn't. No defense is good enough to win every game when your offense is playing that badly. If your defense keeps the #1 team in the country to 21 points (I don't care how many seconds it took them to score them) then they have done a good enough job that your offense needs to be able to seal the deal. They didn't though, they put the defense in yet another must-win situation, and the defense got beat.


It's obviuos LSU had some problems on offense this year, no one is denying that. We were young, inexperienced, and made too many mistakes.

I'm not willing to give LSU's defense a pass and it wasn't because they were put in these "must-win situations" you are referring to or because they were worn down.

The offense improved towards the end of the year and played well enough to win ball games, while the defense regressed.


Over the last 6 games of the season LSU's offense averaged 27 ppg and 380 ypg, while the defense gave up 21 ppg and 371 ypg including 3 straight 300 yd passers and over 460 yards in their last 2 games.

During that span of games LSU's average TOP was 33.25, while opponents averaged 26.35. So the worn out defense doesn't carry any weight.

LSU's offense wasn't incredible this year, but it won games for us and put us in position to win multiple times, when our defense let us down.
This post was edited on 11/26/12 at 2:30 pm
Posted by dmbear
Member since Aug 2008
38 posts
Posted on 11/27/12 at 7:17 am to
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30 points a game is not some mythical number. A&M, Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee all managed 30 ppg or more in SEC play. LSU managed 22.5 and that number is greatly inflated by the last few games of the season against teams who are in the bottom half of scoring defense in the SEC.

Yes, the offense improved as the year went on, and I hope the trend continues. But you can't lay all of the blame for a loss on your defense when the offense only puts up 17 points with 435 yards. We had red zone problems all year that meant that the defense was constantly on the hook to play lights out. I'm not surprised that they were burnt out by the end of the season, after bailing out the offense time and time again.

Look, LSU was averaging 22 PPG in SEC play. That is not enough to win every game. It just isn't. No defense is good enough to win every game when your offense is playing that badly. If your defense keeps the #1 team in the country to 21 points (I don't care how many seconds it took them to score them) then they have done a good enough job that your offense needs to be able to seal the deal. They didn't though, they put the defense in yet another must-win situation, and the defense got beat.

Maybe this had something to do with the PPG
SEC Team Record of 8 SEC foes
Auburn 40-24
Missouri 39-25
Tennessee 38-26
Ole Miss 37-27
LSU 35-29
Kentucky 34-30
Florida 33-31
Texas A&M 31-33
South Carolina 30-34
Vanderbilt 26-38
Mississippi State 25-39
Alabama 24-40
Georgia 24-40
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