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Lets have a discussion about red cards
Posted on 9/28/12 at 3:18 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 3:18 am
I was listening to Men in Blazers today and they brought up something I haven't really thought of before.
They maintained that decisions in the first half, especially straight red card decisions, should be evaluated differently than similar decisions in the second half. Their reasoning was that a red card in the first half, particularly early in the first half, is similar to that of a "death sentence," while a red in the second half is more similar to a "10 year jail sentence."
Basically, since the punishment for a red card in the first half is much more harsh than a red in the second, the ref should be much more hesitant to pull the red out of his pocket, effectively judging the decisions differently.
Thoughts? I'm still digesting it and would like to hear some other thoughts. There certainly doesn't seem to be many good alternatives, but they do raise a couple good points.
They maintained that decisions in the first half, especially straight red card decisions, should be evaluated differently than similar decisions in the second half. Their reasoning was that a red card in the first half, particularly early in the first half, is similar to that of a "death sentence," while a red in the second half is more similar to a "10 year jail sentence."
Basically, since the punishment for a red card in the first half is much more harsh than a red in the second, the ref should be much more hesitant to pull the red out of his pocket, effectively judging the decisions differently.
Thoughts? I'm still digesting it and would like to hear some other thoughts. There certainly doesn't seem to be many good alternatives, but they do raise a couple good points.
This post was edited on 9/28/12 at 3:24 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:34 am to LSUSOBEAST1
How about this:
Person who gets the Red must sit out two halves--if it's the first half, he simply sits out the rest of the match in which he's currently playing. If it's in the second half, he sits out second half, and then first half of the following match his team plays in the same league (EPL, UEFA CL, FA Cup, etc.). In addition, at no time while the player is serving his suspension, may his team use more than ten players.
How about that for your morning cup of coffee?
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But sticking with your original thought, I don't think it matters. If you earn a Red, you get a Red, no matter when it occurs. 99 times out of 100, a straight Red is so flagrant that it is well-deserved. If it's two Yellows, well, the first Yellow served as a warning to straighten your arse up.
Person who gets the Red must sit out two halves--if it's the first half, he simply sits out the rest of the match in which he's currently playing. If it's in the second half, he sits out second half, and then first half of the following match his team plays in the same league (EPL, UEFA CL, FA Cup, etc.). In addition, at no time while the player is serving his suspension, may his team use more than ten players.
How about that for your morning cup of coffee?
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But sticking with your original thought, I don't think it matters. If you earn a Red, you get a Red, no matter when it occurs. 99 times out of 100, a straight Red is so flagrant that it is well-deserved. If it's two Yellows, well, the first Yellow served as a warning to straighten your arse up.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:53 am to LSUSOBEAST1
My biggest issue with red cards is that they are far too discretionary. One bad call can completely change the game and unfortunately it happens a lot.
I think they should have a two tier system for red cards. Once a red card is given, it is watched via instant replay and then it's determined which tier the card will be. Tier 1 red, the player is off the pitch, but the team can sub in. Tier 2 red, the player is off and the team cannot sub.
I think they should have a two tier system for red cards. Once a red card is given, it is watched via instant replay and then it's determined which tier the card will be. Tier 1 red, the player is off the pitch, but the team can sub in. Tier 2 red, the player is off and the team cannot sub.
This post was edited on 9/28/12 at 7:55 am
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:46 am to LSUSOBEAST1
quote:
They maintained that decisions in the first half, especially straight red card decisions, should be evaluated differently than similar decisions in the second half. Their reasoning was that a red card in the first half, particularly early in the first half, is similar to that of a "death sentence," while a red in the second half is more similar to a "10 year jail sentence."
Basically, since the punishment for a red card in the first half is much more harsh than a red in the second, the ref should be much more hesitant to pull the red out of his pocket, effectively judging the decisions differently.
I disagree. To further your analogy.... "Do the crime, do the time."
A shitty, dangerous tackle (or any red-card worthy foul) should be judged the same, without regard to time or place.
I've probably played 500+ refereed matches in my lifetime, and in general, I'm a real bastard on the field..... and I've never been red carded. Know your boundaries, know a ref's boundaries. If you're too stupid to stay behind the boundary, that's on you and you alone.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 9:21 am to LSUSOBEAST1
I must have missed this part. I had to do something at the bank and that must have come on during that time. It's not like refs are handing out reds for fun especially in the first half. The MiB come up with all sorts of scenarios like this and sometimes it's hard to tell if they are serious.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 6:41 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Sounds like a hipster conversation on reddit amongst many new soccer followers to me.
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