re: Is it time to cut ties with Garrett Hartley

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but how long do you get a pass because of that?

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not long. kicking is right here right now, in the moment. What have you done for me lately.

Remember, hartley has cost us more games than he has won at the end. at least 3 he cost us and 1 he won. I mean if we are not counting misses that did not cost us the game or were not at the end of the game(regardless whether we won or lost that is) like last week(loss) and the two against Minny in 2010(win), etc, then we cannot count the non-game winning makes like he did in the SB. fair enough? I think so.