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re: NFL presented Vilma w/sworn affidavit of GW stating Vilma offered 10k for Favre

Posted on 9/18/12 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 12:04 pm to
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I can't help but think the owners get together and fire Goodell to make him the sacrificial lamb to save face for the NFL


Save what face? Most fans either don't care or are against the Saints on this one. Some reporters may question how hard Goodell has been on the players but I haven't seen much Free Sean Payton sentiment at all in the media. It's mostly that the players shouldn't be punished as much as the coaches, not that the coaches/FO are innocent. They may think the punishments are too harsh, but they don't think the league is wrong.

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i don't see how Vilma could lose if this gets pushed through Federal Court.


Vilma has to prove that Goodell intended to lie. Goodell is basing his claims on the claims of coaches at the meeting in question, so he's not lying, he's repeating evidence he believes to be true. Vilma won't win a thing unless he finds smoking gun evidence that Goodell fabricated it all and he won't find that because most people think if it's fabricated that Cerullo was the one that made it up because he was disgruntled, not because the NFL asked him to.

I hate to keep being the bearer of bad news in these threads, but the outcome to this has been decided before it began.
Posted by TigerB8
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 12:41 pm to
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I can't help but think the owners get together and fire Goodell to make him the sacrificial lamb to save face for the NFL




Because, in my mind, I am extrapolating to the future (maybe in a year after the dust settles with all that's going on)...I see this Saints thing picking up steam in the media and getting worse. The rent a ref thing could get worse by seasons end...throw in what could ensue with the class action lawsuits, who knows. You are the voice of reason here, and i am reaching but it's possible.

And why can't Vilma continue his defamation lawsuit? Make them show proof and if he wins, file for damages. NFL still claims he did something wrong, and i say make them freaking prove it.

FYI, you seem pretty knowledgeable so, very classy of you to not condescend my post as there were many holes.
This post was edited on 9/18/12 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Me4Heisman
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:00 pm to
Yeah but you are assuming that Goodell has courtroom quality evidence to support his claims. Big difference.
Posted by Me4Heisman
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:00 pm to
Yeah but you are assuming that Goodell has courtroom quality evidence to support his claims. Big difference.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/18/12 at 1:44 pm to
I hate to tell you but Vilma doesn't have to prove anything. Statements made by two people is not enough to justify going in a public forum and defaming the character of an individual. Goodell needs hard evidence for him to have the right to say what he has said and if he doesn't produce evidence that justifies his claims in court well then he broke the law. All Vilma has to do is say in court " Mr. Goodell show me what your working with" and GD has to produce evidence. Goodell can say that his interpretation justified him to make his statements but that doesn't matter it all comes down to the interpretation of the jury. And what's been produced so far, vilmas attorney will have no problem showing the gigantic holes in the evidence GD has aquired
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