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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:09 pm to
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I've read them several times, and probably spend more time reading threads/theories/wikis and listening to podcasts that anyone on this board.


Oh really, GameCockAlum?

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The letter specifically demands Shireen.


Yes, because she's Stannis' heir. Why wouldn't Ramsay demand her, and even if he didn't, why would Davos demand he send her to Winterfell controlled by the Boltons. Surely Davos knew Jon wouldn't just hand her over, especially after the Karstark incident.

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I think Davos' intent was to have her send south, away from Mel, where Stannis would have won Winterfell by her arrival.


Well, that's one hell of stupid gamble.

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His worst case scenario is that Jon marches south. Jon isn't going anywhere without Stannis's daughter and heir.


Ummm, that's not the worst case. Worst case he obliges to Ramsay's request.... in which case how does Davos know about this? You have yet to answer that.

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In the event that he does, Davos knows that the wildlings still at the wall would never allow Mel to sacrifice Shireen.


Actually, you are completely wrong here and multiple wildlings say she should have been killed. They certainly wouldn't have gone to the bat for Shireen.

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The 4th option, the one where Jon gets murdered by his brothers, is something that he could have never foresaw and never would have crossed his mind.


I think Davos is intelligent enough to know that if Jon led an army to Winterfell to take down the Boltons that his brothers might have a problem with it and kill him. He's no stranger to their vows.

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The point is that he knows he has to get Shireen away from Mel, at any cost. As is evident in the show, Davos knows he has to get her away. However, as I propose, he ultimately fails horribly. He is the only character who could have written the letters. Ramsay couldn't have. Stannis had access to the Dreadfort ink, assuming that Davos didn't take it, but there are some pretty big hold ups with that theory as well. The theory is in the grand idea, its easier to see if you don't lose the forest for the trees.



And to put the final hole in your theory, why wouldn't he have dragged down both Shireen and Mel to Winterfell? There's no reason not to unless Jon is in on it.

Your condescending theory isn't worth debating any further. Let me repeat a quote where you've been condescending to us all on this thread;

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I've read them several times, and probably spend more time reading threads/theories/wikis and listening to podcasts that anyone on this board.


So yeah, you're saying that we're all stupid but you. You assume that the rest of us haven't read the same crap you have. That is simply insulting to everyone who regularly posts in this thread, and you should shut the frick up because you're just coming across as a dick, and a stupid one at that.

Honestly, frick you. I take everyone's opinion seriously on this thread because I assume they're just as well read as I am. I don't take the superiority road. Anyone who disagrees with my opinions I bring up basic quotes to support my theory, and often they do as well to where we have a healthy non-condescending conversations. This is a Crackpot thread for a reason, and not because others are more well read. We bring up bizarre things, and if you simply brought up Davos being behind the Pink Letter as "bizzare" instead of "I know more than all of you", we could have had a healthy conversation; but instead you decide to be a condescending dick about having quite simply a stupid and crackpot (and I mean that lightly) idea.

So in short:

This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 11:14 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:13 pm to
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So yeah, you're saying that we're all stupid but you. You assume that the rest of us haven't read the same crap you have. That is simply insulting to everyone who regularly posts in this thread, and you should shut the frick up because you're just coming across as a dick, and a stupid one at that.


What? When have I ever made that assumption? I'm said that I read a shite load of theories and forums about this, because you went out of your way to accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about. You're now shooting "holes", which none of have weight, in my theory while making accusations that I am somehow insulting the posters of this thread. Which BTW I've been posting in on and off for about 3 years.

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Ummm, that's not the worst case. Worst case he obliges to Ramsay's request.... in which case how does Davos know about this? You have yet to answer that.


Davos doesn't have to know his decision, and I'm not claiming to know the ins and out of exactly how it goes down. I just said that I feel confident because I feel the grand scale fits. I think Davos expects Stannis to win Winterfell, hes sending Shireen south to her father. My backup was merely that Davos somehow made arrangements for her to be intercepted before she arrived at Winterfell. Neither of which is the most absurd thing thats happened in this series.




You have a point about Val's stance on Shireen. She is very adamant about her circumstance and I didn't consider that when posting. As I said, I'm not claiming I know exactly how it happens. I just said I feel confident about it because of the general idea.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 11:21 pm
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