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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 7/13/13 at 10:18 pm to ladytiger118
Posted on 7/13/13 at 10:18 pm to ladytiger118
The Grand Northern Conspiracy
All 7 parts are included. One of the better reads in regards to the situation in the north.
All 7 parts are included. One of the better reads in regards to the situation in the north.
Posted on 7/14/13 at 1:07 am to Azazello
Most of what this guy is saying is in line with most of my theories as well. Very well written, thanks for posting!
One thing that can't be stressed enough is that the impression that Martin will kill any main character at any point is patently false, and this writer does a good of pointing that out. Ned's death was necessary, particularly if the main character is actually Jon. Now, it may appear that he will kill anyone at anytime. After Ned, he hit us with the following:
Arya takes an axe to the back of the head! (oh wait, it was the flat of the axe, she's ok!)
Robb is killed at the RW! (as this writer points out, Robb never even had a single POV chapter)
Catelyn is killed at the RW! (now she's back as Lady Stoneheart)
Bran and Rickon were killed by Theon. (No, these were fakes. Bran and Rickon are still around)
Crap, now they've murdered, Jon! (and ADWD OPENS with Varmyr Sixskins and how Wargs can cheat death, mentions how well Melisandre can perform glamors, gives examples of red priests bringing people back from the dead, and basically gives us numerous options for how Jon can come back, if he even died in the first place).
So, assuming that Jon is back, Ned and Robb are really the only two major protagonists that have truly been killed off. The bad guys are going to die, so they don't count, bet hell, even the Cleganes are still around after we thought they were done.
One thing that can't be stressed enough is that the impression that Martin will kill any main character at any point is patently false, and this writer does a good of pointing that out. Ned's death was necessary, particularly if the main character is actually Jon. Now, it may appear that he will kill anyone at anytime. After Ned, he hit us with the following:
Arya takes an axe to the back of the head! (oh wait, it was the flat of the axe, she's ok!)
Robb is killed at the RW! (as this writer points out, Robb never even had a single POV chapter)
Catelyn is killed at the RW! (now she's back as Lady Stoneheart)
Bran and Rickon were killed by Theon. (No, these were fakes. Bran and Rickon are still around)
Crap, now they've murdered, Jon! (and ADWD OPENS with Varmyr Sixskins and how Wargs can cheat death, mentions how well Melisandre can perform glamors, gives examples of red priests bringing people back from the dead, and basically gives us numerous options for how Jon can come back, if he even died in the first place).
So, assuming that Jon is back, Ned and Robb are really the only two major protagonists that have truly been killed off. The bad guys are going to die, so they don't count, bet hell, even the Cleganes are still around after we thought they were done.
This post was edited on 7/14/13 at 1:11 am
Posted on 7/14/13 at 9:04 am to Azazello
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The Grand Northern Conspiracy
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Thank you so much for posting this Azello. Those excerpts are so spot on and relevant especially Part 2.
I had forgotten tons of those details, specifically about Lady Stoneheart, and don't think I even realized on my reads that Tom O Seven was her spy by what he overheard and then those people subsequently being captured and killed. And Stoneheart then holding Robb's crown just confirms it all.
Very very well done. This even gives me hope that Jamie and Brienne may not be in as dire a situation as I feared if there is indeed some humanity and strategy to what Un-Cat is doing.
Her delivering Robb's decree to Jon Snow would be a beautiful connection of both of their arcs, and in a way, Ned's and Robb's.
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Kill the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let the man be born'."
And thank you for posting this ffish. Excellent foreshadowing of what we all hope was set up in the final pages of ADWD.
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This post was edited on 7/14/13 at 9:06 am
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