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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:05 pm to ladytiger118
Posted on 7/6/13 at 5:05 pm to ladytiger118
I really don't see any reason why JonCon, Varys, and Ned would ever team up. Knowing what I know about JonCon and what I know about Varys and Rhaegar's relationship, I'm shocked that those two are actually collaborating. JonCon wouldn't have forgiven Ned for the Battle of the Bells, and surely Ned and Varys would have acted somewhat different towards each other if this was going on.
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Posted on 7/6/13 at 7:49 pm to OMLandshark
I see what you mean, especially since Ned was loyal to Robert/fought on his side.
Ned hated the Lannisters for what they did and didn't speak to Robert for a while because of what happened to Elia's children. I don't think Ned was 'in' on a big secret baby Targ scheme but he certainly wanted to keep Jon safe (assuming R+L was real). Varys seemed fond of Ned in AGoT. Not buddies but he liked him.
Ned hated the Lannisters for what they did and didn't speak to Robert for a while because of what happened to Elia's children. I don't think Ned was 'in' on a big secret baby Targ scheme but he certainly wanted to keep Jon safe (assuming R+L was real). Varys seemed fond of Ned in AGoT. Not buddies but he liked him.
Posted on 7/6/13 at 9:52 pm to OMLandshark
Again, not sure if Varys was involved with or even aware of Jon Snow. BUT, the situation made for strange bedfellows. Ned would have had nothing to do with any of them, except he had to for the sake of keeping his promise to Lyanna. But looking at the facts of the story:
Ned was already in an odd situation in a Targ-friendly environment at Starfall with a child with ties to both the Targs and the Starks, and both sides would have wanted to protect the child.
We know that Varys, JonCon and Ilyrio were working together to hide Young Griff (in this theory, Ashara and Aery's son) because it's in the books.
I think that Ned would have done what he had to do to protect Lyanna's son and I'm guessing that Ashara would do the same for her own newborn. If Ashara pretended that her child was actually Aegon and that Ned had her son with him, then Ned would not have needed to be overly involved in the plot to get Ashara and her son out of Westeros. Also, if Varys and co. believed that the child with Ashara was the real Aegon, they would have had no reason to bother with Jon Snow afterward.
...and tried to help him. It was LF that screwed him over. Also, Ned spoke up against Robert in regards to killing Dany and her child; he wasn't interested in killing Targ babies.
Ned was already in an odd situation in a Targ-friendly environment at Starfall with a child with ties to both the Targs and the Starks, and both sides would have wanted to protect the child.
We know that Varys, JonCon and Ilyrio were working together to hide Young Griff (in this theory, Ashara and Aery's son) because it's in the books.
I think that Ned would have done what he had to do to protect Lyanna's son and I'm guessing that Ashara would do the same for her own newborn. If Ashara pretended that her child was actually Aegon and that Ned had her son with him, then Ned would not have needed to be overly involved in the plot to get Ashara and her son out of Westeros. Also, if Varys and co. believed that the child with Ashara was the real Aegon, they would have had no reason to bother with Jon Snow afterward.
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Varys seemed fond of Ned in AGoT. Not buddies but he liked him.
...and tried to help him. It was LF that screwed him over. Also, Ned spoke up against Robert in regards to killing Dany and her child; he wasn't interested in killing Targ babies.
This post was edited on 7/6/13 at 10:01 pm
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