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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 6/26/13 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 1:49 pm to
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It is my opinion that harmony being referenced is the Ice & Fire that Jon Snow descends from. In order to defeat the White Walkers and unite the 7 kingdoms, Jon needs to balance the superior traits of both families, Stark (Ice) and Targaryen (Fire). Once he does this, he will be the King that is needed to lead mankind through the Winter that has just arrived.



That's obviously the way most of us view the name of the series, and this Ragnarok crackpot has not convinced me otherwise, at least at this point, despite the very impressive research and knowledge of the blogger.

I do think it's obvious, though, that GRRM is very well acquainted with this Norse mythology, and it heavily influenced him in his writing of ASOIAF.

So clearly studying this theory could provide a lot of insight and clues as to where certain things could be headed.

But I do think the blogger takes a big leap in his thesis:

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And that is Ragnarök -- the forces of ice & fire uniting as one to attack the world of gods and men.



Our theory isn't that I&F are the forces of each side uniting, but that Jon is literally I&F personified, and he is the PtwP to defend the realm of gods and men against forces from both sides that seek to bring ruin to the realm.

And that is primarily where this theory is lacking IMO. Notably absent from his character/comparison are both RHAEGAR and LYANNA, and any reference to Jon's possible parentage between the two.

Even his presentation of Aerys/Odin focuses partially on his relationship to Jamie/Tyr.

It is basically a fatal flaw of an otherwise impressive argument IMO to leave out R&L.

Just my two cents, but I still really enjoyed reading it nonetheless.

Here's the wiki entry on Ragnarok:

LINK

And another site with good info:

timelessmyths.com
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 6/26/13 at 3:23 pm to
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It is basically a fatal flaw of an otherwise impressive argument IMO to leave out R&L.

Just my two cents, but I still really enjoyed reading it nonetheless.



I don't think that you can say that a fatal flaw of one theory is that it doesn't match up with another theory when neither is known to be correct at this time.
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