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My theory is, TCotF, driven further and further North, either created The Others as the ultimate weapon against the Andal invaders, or even Became them in an attempt to either a) adapt their species to the harsh envrions in which they had been pushed before the genocide was complete;

I don't believe the COTF are the Others.

The COTF are small and childlike. The Others are taller than humans.

The Others return the dead to create wights. The COTF fought against them in the War for the Dawn.

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The children of the forest and their allies, the First Men, fought valiantly against them, but were driven southwards by their advance. The 'Others', as these demons were called, were eventually checked when it was discovered that weapons made of dragonglass (obsidian) could kill them. A great hero, who in the eastern tradition is known as Azor Ahai, led the war against the Others wielding his sword of fire, Lightbringer.

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Posted on 4/3/13 at 11:46 am to Hu_Flung_Pu

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I don't believe the COTF are the Others.

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The COTF fought against them in the War for the Dawn

You seem to have misunderstood me. What I'm saying is that SOME of tCotF became Others, not ALL of them. An extreme faction, if you will- one who's beliefs/ motives did not jibe with the rest of tCotF. It's not like there was a consensus decision for all of them to become (or create) the Others...They were a peaceful race, nature oriented. In my mind, I see them defending themselves, but within rational limits...I don't see them consciously creating a weapon capable destroying all life out of spite...a few of them, sure.

Absolutely, the TRUE CotF would fight against Them...the Elves fought the Orcs, yes?

I'm attempting to apply a Tokien paradigm here, and it may or may not be what Martin is thinking.

re-reading my theory, what I really like the best is IF tCotF had anything to do with creating the Others...it was an accident. Clearly, they had powerful magic at their disposal, and just as they did to The Neck, it didn't always work the way they intended. They were losing the war with the Andals, and desperate to survive, turned to darker, destructive magic as a last resort...and it backfired. Another example of a civilization destroying itself with it's own technology, as the Doom of Valyria could have been (mining too deep...another Tolkienish idea)

As far as the height difference, magic can do all kinds of shite. If the Others were intended to be 'super soldiers' why would they be designed to be small?

driven South vs. North:

I'd like that link. I know that the only area not defeated by the Andals was the North, hence why there are still WW trees there. The history I read long ago stated the Neck was turned into a swamp (meant to be a sea) to stop the spread Northward.
That made sense to me.

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